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DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 6

Old 29th Jun 2016, 16:18
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Life's easier with 20x20 hindsight, however. The associated debt/losses get forgotten about.

Also, does make you wonder why Peel have taken so long to exploit this "prime commercial land" - Sheffield keeps getting quoted, so if it was that good a deal why wait till now?
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Old 29th Jun 2016, 19:05
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HWAG

Oh, I see I'm getting dragged into it now eh?😜

I know I am more optimistic the most, but that is because I am regular user of the airport and have had close connections to it for many years. I am also a realist and someone who knows about business.

The issue here is a disconnect between what most expect a successful airport to look like (plenty of passenger flights) v what a business owner wants (maximum return for his cash). The airport itself is busy and in my opinion, busier than it has been in a while. Sadly this isn't passenger operations and therefore doesn't make most people's radar.

As for the future, who knows, but I wouldn't be expecting anything radical on the passenger front. The best chance of an increase I think is a 4th Amsterdam.....
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Old 30th Jun 2016, 06:54
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P330,I was applauding not critiscing your efforts ( and others)to raise moral!!

Your point is very valid...the dividing line between what the public want and what the owners want..and in a nutshell this is what causes the disquiet?
Interesting point re 4 th Amsterdam...with larger aircraft taking on the route,I feel we need to consolidate with our 3. ,4 could be a way off ??
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Old 30th Jun 2016, 16:56
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What would be the best time for an extra Amsterdam? Presume timing is needed to connect with outbound and inbound flights from Amsterdam.
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Old 30th Jun 2016, 17:58
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Mon-Fri times for the 3 local airports are as follows (although do change by 5-10 minutes depending on the week)

Outbound departures:
MME: 06:20, 10:10, 17:10
NCL: 06:00, 09:15, 11,10, 13:25, 17:30
LBA: 06:20, 09:10, 13:25, 17:20

Inbound Arrivals:
MME: 09:40, 16:40, 21:30
NCL: 08:35, 10:25, 12:50, 16:40, 22:20
LBA: 08:35, 12:45, 16:45, 22:15

It would appear that an early afternoon departure would be the most likely as thats what NCL and LBA both have. NWI is on 4 rotations and they have a 14:10 departure too.

I appreciate that MME is more of an outbound airport but I think that an early afternoon flight would work well for visitors who could do a lunch-to-lunch meeting in the Teesside area and then get home at a reasonable time. I know my European colleagues would prefer this than getting the 5pm flight to AMS and getting a connection which gets them home at midnight.
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Old 30th Jun 2016, 18:44
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My guess would be the 10.10 moves forward a bit and a 4th comes in between 1pm and 2pm.

Pure speculation of course.
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Old 18th Jul 2016, 17:38
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Nothing on here since June!! Let's talk politics...one of DTV's main supporters has gone!! Anyone any idea how that will effect the airport?
Looking forward to flying from here on Sunday...I promise a true and honest reflection!!
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Old 18th Jul 2016, 20:44
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
I promise a true and honest reflection!!
Aye righto. There's no way your interpretation of a "true and honest reflection" is the same as the dictionary definition. You're one of the negative brigade and therefore I would suggest you have already more or less decided what you're going to write.
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Old 18th Jul 2016, 21:30
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
As air shows go..it was..lets be honest pretty poor..
If his air show review above is anything to go by it will differ considerably from the popular opinion.
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 07:12
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Give a dog...

Now,now..that's not fair! I am fully expecting a seamless trouble free transit.Employed Airport staff are not the problem ..it's the upper tier management..is it not?
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 13:18
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Looking forward to flying from here on Sunday
is that a parachute jump??
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 15:41
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Rip cord....

Good guess..it's all there is!! Will give you a wave..promise you won't look up and hope for moths in the rigging!!

Original point. James Wharton was a very active supporter of the airport..wonder if he will continue with a much needed voice?
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 18:17
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
Good guess..it's all there is!!
But it's not though is it? It's not even close to "all there is", what a ridiculous comment! My point proven.
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 18:36
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Obviously an angry man bul-shit! You invited the comment..yea I know there is lots more and plenty going on.well done to all those who have gone the extra mile to develop..
My argument is..where is a once major airport going.We can handle wide bodies(on Thursday) weekly Summer jersey flights,limited schedules and occasional small series of charters,Newmarket,Omega etc..however,we turn down a once a week Balkan and Thomson...what does that say about..any ambition and input the local economy?not to mention the PR To be gained.
Of course this lost business is all we know about..goodness what else has 'been turned away' ??

Sorry to upset you but it really doesn't make any sense.
At a difficult time for aviation,surely the authorities should be busting a gut to encourage business(airline..and puddle jumpers!)
For those how have seen the rise and unfortunately the fall,it's sometimes hard to swallow without being cynical and angry.
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 19:02
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Highwide...upper tier management are not the problem, they may be underqualified and prone to mistakes, but they're as passionate about the place as anyone - there are no levels of hierarchy that are a problem, if anything it's security staff, who bar one or two are still miserable little Hitlers who look like their faces would crack if they tried to smile

Originally Posted by highwideandugly
a once major airport
But where we ever a major airport?? People are all too quick to compare us to our neighbours but we never have been, and never would have been, in their league. Compare apples to apples.

Originally Posted by highwideandugly
we turn down a once a week Balkan and Thomson...what does that say about..any ambition and input the local economy?not to mention the PR To be gained.
This has been explained conclusively on here time and again

Originally Posted by highwideandugly
Of course this lost business is all we know about..goodness what else has 'been turned away' ??
There may well be more that has been turned away yes, but it will be for the simple reason the deal tabled is of little or no financial benefit to the airport...in which case good!!

Originally Posted by highwideandugly
At a difficult time for aviation,surely the authorities should be busting a gut to encourage business(airline..and puddle jumpers!)
They are!!! But as said above the deals need to work for both parties...again this has been discussed several times before by both myself and others.

I can see why Mr Bullschit (awesome name by the way!!) gets angry and feels a need to call himself that!!!
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 19:41
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Thanks good reply and yes I know it's been discussed before..but it still irks! When I said upper tear I meant outside the airport at top level Peel level.
But unfair to blame security staff on miserable wages and conditions..it must be so hard for them.
An airport approaching 1 million passengers and with the ancillary business it had(still does)should have been in a better position than now?
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 20:41
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It 'irks' us all, even me with all my positiveness and defence of the place - but why ask a question to which the answer has already been given, and the same answer will be given again - it's almost like you (and a lot more so Beafer) ask the same questions in the hope that somehow the answer will change.
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 21:53
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But unfair to blame security staff on miserable wages and conditions..it must be so hard for them.
So how come it doesn't seem to affect security at other airports? Presumably the wages and conditions are relatively similar? At the end of the day manners cost nothing.
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Old 20th Jul 2016, 00:47
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C.Optimistic, how are the DTV house building plans coming along?
Rumour around MSG is that the plans have been given a green light by the council with more houses being talked about.
Any news from the coal face end or is the mushroom treatment still the order of the day?
I'll be watching the landings closely on Sunday

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Old 20th Jul 2016, 05:19
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Beafer, why always start with insults?


And to dig things up, one person and her nimbys has done more damage than anyone and that is Doris, mainly by being miss informed.
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