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Traffic coming from the Netherlands doesn’t haven’t to go under the Scheldt - although totally agree, the Kennedy Tunnel is a nightmare. Can’t see any return in near future to flights - it would still be cheaper to pay the tax in NL than the petrol and time of driving to Antwerp. Those of us who regularly used the LCY/ANR run have all got used to flying into Zaventem, which is nearly halfway to Antwerp anyway and well served by motorway and rail.
Luxair to open a route from Antwerp to London City from January 2023
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/l...h-london-city/
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Where in The Netherlands are passengers going to come from to save this €20?
With the price of fuel that it now is, it pretty much only represents a saving from south of Rotterdam or west of Tilburg. We can probably work out the number of people by adding the population of the province of Zeeland (400K) and the city of Breda (200K). That's not that many people.
Add to that, with Ryanair flying Eindhoven-Stansted, it seems unlikely that any higher cost airline will be cheaper than Ryanair plus €20.
Also factor in that the Eurostar now operates to Rotterdam, and the market for flights from the South-Western Netherlands to London is pretty limited.
With the price of fuel that it now is, it pretty much only represents a saving from south of Rotterdam or west of Tilburg. We can probably work out the number of people by adding the population of the province of Zeeland (400K) and the city of Breda (200K). That's not that many people.
Add to that, with Ryanair flying Eindhoven-Stansted, it seems unlikely that any higher cost airline will be cheaper than Ryanair plus €20.
Also factor in that the Eurostar now operates to Rotterdam, and the market for flights from the South-Western Netherlands to London is pretty limited.
New winter-season flights operated by SkyAlps from Bolzano, Italy
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/skyalps/a-new-airine-at-antwerp-airport-skyalps-flies-from-antwerp-to-bolzano-in-tha-italian-dolomites-from-december-21st/
TUI Fly's E190's (mostly) based in ANR, will be replaced with new E195-E2's by next summer:
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/t...i-fly-belgium/
https://www.embraercommercialaviatio...dSow_ShG8apRuA
And now we're at it, after being closed for 37 days for a complete runway renovation, the airport was reopened last week
https://www.aviation24.be/airports/a...ay-renovation/
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/skyalps/a-new-airine-at-antwerp-airport-skyalps-flies-from-antwerp-to-bolzano-in-tha-italian-dolomites-from-december-21st/
TUI Fly's E190's (mostly) based in ANR, will be replaced with new E195-E2's by next summer:
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/t...i-fly-belgium/
https://www.embraercommercialaviatio...dSow_ShG8apRuA
And now we're at it, after being closed for 37 days for a complete runway renovation, the airport was reopened last week
https://www.aviation24.be/airports/a...ay-renovation/
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"The aeroplanes will operate mostly out of Antwerp," - has that been the case with the E190s? I was not under the impression that the largest chunk the four E190's capacity they currently use was deployed from ANR. More like W-patterns with LGG and OST and also flights from BRU.
Marketing spin aside, this will mean a 25 per cent reduction in aircraft capacity and a 10 per cent reduction in seat capacity. And if they also fly longer routes, less flights.
Marketing spin aside, this will mean a 25 per cent reduction in aircraft capacity and a 10 per cent reduction in seat capacity. And if they also fly longer routes, less flights.
"The aeroplanes will operate mostly out of Antwerp," - has that been the case with the E190s? I was not under the impression that the largest chunk the four E190's capacity they currently use was deployed from ANR. More like W-patterns with LGG and OST and also flights from BRU.
Most important of all, for an environmental sensitive airport, a cleaner/quieter aircraft is a major improvement.
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Indeed, to be taken with a pinch of 'PR salt'. Only in top-season periods, operating 3 out of ANR (sometimes 3 based, sometimes 2 based + 1 incoming from a W-pattern).
Rightsizing is important in the current context. The E190's 112 seats requiring 3 Cabin Crew wasn't ideal, especially out of ANR on high density altitude days with weight-restricted departures, when 1 or 2 seat rows needed to be left empty.
Most important of all, for an environmental sensitive airport, a cleaner/quieter aircraft is a major improvement.
Rightsizing is important in the current context. The E190's 112 seats requiring 3 Cabin Crew wasn't ideal, especially out of ANR on high density altitude days with weight-restricted departures, when 1 or 2 seat rows needed to be left empty.
Most important of all, for an environmental sensitive airport, a cleaner/quieter aircraft is a major improvement.
In recent years 2 E190 based in ANR during summer, 1 in winter. During summer 4 weekly W-patterns (3 to OST, 1 to CRL), in winter only 1 to CRL and some extra incoming W-patterns. There were never 3 based at ANR. Full schedule of 2 or 3 daily rotations for each E190, NDR and TNG during the night.
Longer flights does NOT mean less flights. Airport is open from 630 till 2300 LT. Many days the last flight returns around 2000LT. So if they swap a Malaga rotation with a rotation to Heraklion fe they will still be able to land before the airport closes. It will even mean more daily flight hours and better utilisation of the asset.
Reducing from 4 E190 to 3 E295 is indeed reducing number of seats by 9%. And in reality the difference will even be smaller since they were not able to sell all seats on the longer flights (ANR, NDR and TNG). Overall average seats available from/to ANR was around 110.
The minimum number of crew (2+3) needed to operate is the same, crew costs will be reduced by 25% for 9% less seats.
Number of frequencies can be reduced too. AGP and ALC being flown 7 times weekly could be reduced to 6 while still offering more capacity. People will not even notice since AGP is double daily on Thursdays (no flight on Wed) and ALC double daily on Sundays and Tuesdays (no flights on Mo and Fri). They just have to cancel one of the double daily flights to free up a slot. This way they already have some gaps to offer a new destination on Tue, Thu and/or Sun.
If they want to offer more NEW destinations from ANR they will need to cancel the W-patterns or put the 3rd E295 in ANR too. It might be preferential to keep this small E295 fleet in one location anyway. Only problem is when one has an AOG since the 737 cannot be used from ANR as a backup. Then they will need to take pax by bus to BRU which is only a 30 minutes drive.
TUI flights from ANR have been more expensive than from other airports, but still sell out easily. Now they bring their average costs down and have a higher yielding airport where no other low cost airline can operate due to the short runway. They will offer more destinations and at the same time fly one of the quietest aircraft that burns a lot less fuel. Happy airline and better for the people around the airport. What more can you wish for?
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It is an interesting development indeed as it has not been tried elsewhere (other than in Switzerland with Helvetic's E190/290s) for a long time - operating an aircraft smaller than the A32X/737 for tour operators from "regional" airports. 20 years ago or so it was quite popular for TUI Germany (and other tour operators) to serve smaller German airports with BAe 146s. Back then it was said that despite the higher prices that could be charged for those flights / IT packages it simply was not worth the hassle operation-wise. However, issues like crew-positioning, maintenance ec. are less of an issue in a smaller country like Belgium (although one might also argue that in a smaller country there is also less incentive for customers to pay more to fly locally).
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Yes, I did not mean to say that it was a new development, but rather that TUIfly has been successful with their Embraer operation for almost a decade while the general industry mantra since the early 2000s seems to be that for IT flights smaller jets do not work.
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New service from TUI to Tel Aviv, twice weekly on Thursday and Sundays. Made possible by the range of the E2-195.
Can't see this failing given the large Jewish population in the area. Good news.
Can't see this failing given the large Jewish population in the area. Good news.
Local Belgian saying to his wife, "when we're in Tel Aviv enjoying our beach holiday I'll get some diamonds cut whilst we're there" 😉
Are you telling me Tel Aviv is just a "holiday resort"🤔
Or are you trying to be facetious. If so being facetious is something I excell in.
Regardless of that.
TUI Antwerp to Tel Aviv is obviously aimed at the local population looking for vacationing in Tel Aviv and for visiting the holy sites such as Jerusalem.
It's obviously not aimed at the diamond trader's from either Antwerp or Tel Aviv.
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I would assume that the majority of us on this thread are fully aware of the diamond business in both Antwerp and Tel Aviv
I would also assume that the majority of us on here are fully aware of the fact that Tel Aviv is not just a "holiday resort".
I maybe from the UK but just to inform you, I have been to Antwerp and Tel Aviv.
Or are you trying to be facetious. If so being facetious is something I excell in.
Regardless of that.
TUI Antwerp to Tel Aviv is obviously aimed at the local population looking for vacationing in Tel Aviv and for visiting the holy sites such as Jerusalem.
It's obviously not aimed at the diamond trader's from either Antwerp or Tel Aviv.
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I would assume that the majority of us on this thread are fully aware of the diamond business in both Antwerp and Tel Aviv
I would also assume that the majority of us on here are fully aware of the fact that Tel Aviv is not just a "holiday resort".
I maybe from the UK but just to inform you, I have been to Antwerp and Tel Aviv.
Similar to the flights from Antwerp to Tanger and to Nador targeting only 'VFR tourism' from the Moroccan community in Antwerp (no TUI vacations can be booked out of Antwerp), the flights to Tel Aviv are most likely also targeting mainly 'VFR tourism' for the Jewish community (TUI vacations to Tel Aviv have been on offering, however for the moment still offering only Brussels Airlines flights out of Brussels)
To be honest I wasn't aware of the fact that TUI vacations can not be booked from Antwerp. I was under the impression that TUI offered vacations from Antwerp targeting the local population as a smaller alternative to Brussels.
Nonetheless as you have rightly pointed out. In a similar fashion to TUI flying to Nador and Tanger.
These flights from Antwerp to Tel Aviv to be operated by TUI are aimed at the local market as well as targeting mainly VFR tourism for the Jewish community.
There might be the odd diamond trader on board, you never know 😉
For all other existing destinations, it's indeed as you state: