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Hi in oban,
The easyjet flight is ran by easyjet.com and sell the seats their also t cook have a small percentage of these seats but are booked though easyjet directly I was told.
Looking at july numbers via web availability its up on last years numbers
Its cheaper to book via easyjet.com as tcook have added a £50 margin upon the flights and you only get 15kgs on the ezy booked though t cook
We have booked direct eith easyjet and tcook only had seats from jun to aug
Also the first year or so it ran with no holiday company involved in 2014 & last year yeilding large seat sales and its up again this year
But its not a tc only opperation as they dont use it in march,apr,sept or oct as the flight runs end march to 29 oct
The easyjet flight is ran by easyjet.com and sell the seats their also t cook have a small percentage of these seats but are booked though easyjet directly I was told.
Looking at july numbers via web availability its up on last years numbers
Its cheaper to book via easyjet.com as tcook have added a £50 margin upon the flights and you only get 15kgs on the ezy booked though t cook
We have booked direct eith easyjet and tcook only had seats from jun to aug
Also the first year or so it ran with no holiday company involved in 2014 & last year yeilding large seat sales and its up again this year
But its not a tc only opperation as they dont use it in march,apr,sept or oct as the flight runs end march to 29 oct
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Turkish going less than daily, down to 5 times per week
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/268589/turkish-airlines-w16-europeshort-haul-service-changes-as-of-27aug16/
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/268589/turkish-airlines-w16-europeshort-haul-service-changes-as-of-27aug16/
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This interestingly broadens the "who's doing best or worst at EDI and GLA - EK, EY or QR" discussion above. In the competition for long haul Far East etc traffic you always have to consider all the players, not just the ME3. AF, KL, BA etc are all in that market as are TK. Looks like TK blinked first which is hardly surprising given that Turkey is not as attractive a destination as it was (see other discussion above) plus, I must admit that I would feel less secure changing planes at IST than at some of the alternatives.
As an aside, I assume that EDI showered TK/EY/QR with incentives to start services. As someone with more than 30 years senior airline management, mostly on the commercial side, I think they got their tactics wrong. Better to have picked one player, probably EY, and got them to double daily as quickly as possible. Not so good for the spotters but much better connections for the passengers.
As an aside, I assume that EDI showered TK/EY/QR with incentives to start services. As someone with more than 30 years senior airline management, mostly on the commercial side, I think they got their tactics wrong. Better to have picked one player, probably EY, and got them to double daily as quickly as possible. Not so good for the spotters but much better connections for the passengers.
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When discussing long haul connections, you should remember that you can also reach tthe Far East via Copenhagen or, this year, Helsinki. I suspect that the latter in particular will be quicker than via the Middle East - great circle routing.
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TK have blinked everywhere, EDI / MAN / BHX /LGW and it is all to do with the political situation and the terrorist attack at IST rather than competition with EK/EY/QR.
I travelled to and from Istanbul 10 days after the coup and did not feel insecure in any way.
I travelled to and from Istanbul 10 days after the coup and did not feel insecure in any way.
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TKs route cuts are almost endless:
Shorthaul:
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/268589/turkish-airlines-w16-europeshort-haul-service-changes-as-of-27aug16/
Longhaul:
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/268588/turkish-airlines-w16-inter-continental-service-changes-as-of-27aug16/
So yes the reduction is nothing to do with the competition with the ME3 etc, more the political situation in Turkey.
I can see a lot of aircraft being parked this winter and possible order deferrals / cancellations on the horizon.
Shorthaul:
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/268589/turkish-airlines-w16-europeshort-haul-service-changes-as-of-27aug16/
Longhaul:
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/268588/turkish-airlines-w16-inter-continental-service-changes-as-of-27aug16/
So yes the reduction is nothing to do with the competition with the ME3 etc, more the political situation in Turkey.
I can see a lot of aircraft being parked this winter and possible order deferrals / cancellations on the horizon.
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Hi in oban
Maybe the A319 with 156 max but I do think if this year is anything to go on and I have flown a few times on it and looked at web avai on the A320 is max 180 loads ara at about 168-180 range mostly at 174 inc the months tc dont have seats. Ie mu flight in may was nooked to 174 but only 168 flew due to 2 being offloaded and some not turning up
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Maybe the A319 with 156 max but I do think if this year is anything to go on and I have flown a few times on it and looked at web avai on the A320 is max 180 loads ara at about 168-180 range mostly at 174 inc the months tc dont have seats. Ie mu flight in may was nooked to 174 but only 168 flew due to 2 being offloaded and some not turning up
Thank you and welcome in oban you are most welcome.
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I appreciate that TK are making system wide cut backs (clearly I am not the only person that doesn't want to visit Turkey or transfer there) but my basic point, that you have to consider all the competition stands. I would expect the events in Turkey and the TK cut back to benefit the ME3 and others.
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Oil revenue pressure in DOH
Qatar to levy airport tax on passengers
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKKCN1130O0
Qatar to levy airport tax on passengers
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKKCN1130O0
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Hi Nil Further,
I agree the a319 would be limiting if this years loads are repeated next year and with bjv they would be operating as the only airline in Scotland serving bjv if they continue and if you add in the Gla pax who were with ls this year as well as the average load of 174per flight this year from Edi on 2 flights per week.
the ls average has been 187/189 over july and aug but will be dropped and I hear its sold well this year and the edi-bjv also
the 319 was used on the edi to dlm last year but this year upped to the 320 this year
NIL Further thank you for your addition its welcomed.
alasdair1
I agree the a319 would be limiting if this years loads are repeated next year and with bjv they would be operating as the only airline in Scotland serving bjv if they continue and if you add in the Gla pax who were with ls this year as well as the average load of 174per flight this year from Edi on 2 flights per week.
the ls average has been 187/189 over july and aug but will be dropped and I hear its sold well this year and the edi-bjv also
the 319 was used on the edi to dlm last year but this year upped to the 320 this year
NIL Further thank you for your addition its welcomed.
alasdair1