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Could the recent Jet2 announcement of a base at STN potentially deliver a benefit to LTN's long term growth?
By which I mean, once LTN's expansion works are largely complete, might EZY decide to leave Ryanair and Jet2 to fight it out at STN and consolidate operations at LTN?
It could allow some routes which EZY doesn't currently serve to commence and others to expand. Just a thought
By which I mean, once LTN's expansion works are largely complete, might EZY decide to leave Ryanair and Jet2 to fight it out at STN and consolidate operations at LTN?
It could allow some routes which EZY doesn't currently serve to commence and others to expand. Just a thought
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Could the recent Jet2 announcement of a base at STN potentially deliver a benefit to LTN's long term growth?
By which I mean, once LTN's expansion works are largely complete, might EZY decide to leave Ryanair and Jet2 to fight it out at STN and consolidate operations at LTN?
It could allow some routes which EZY doesn't currently serve to commence and others to expand. Just a thought
By which I mean, once LTN's expansion works are largely complete, might EZY decide to leave Ryanair and Jet2 to fight it out at STN and consolidate operations at LTN?
It could allow some routes which EZY doesn't currently serve to commence and others to expand. Just a thought
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Totally agree with this even more so with the Jet.2 announcement, leave them to it and concentrate on Luton! easyJet will never be able complete unless it offers a wider range of route with decent frequencies which it won't as it had been scaling back Stansted operations for some time now.
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So IF easy up their game at LTN by moving routes from Stansted, doesn't LTN then risk the same, that is, pushing airlines such as Vueling or even Wizz away to say STN/LGW? Surely this 'theory' that Jet2 setting up shop at STN will push airlines away, would have the same effect at LTN if easy became more 'dominant'?
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Why do you ask questions on here when you have your own answers and reasoning's already?
Pardon my ignorance but why would there be an appetite for EZY to move those routes you've suggested from STN over to LTN in light of today's Jet2 announcement?
I find it very unlikely Jet2 will be flying to Asturias, Bilbao etc. OK Prague possibly if they choose to add to the Jet2 Citybreak offering as well.
If anything I'd expect Malaga, Palma, Ibiza from EZY's STN network would get the chop. But equally, it could go the other way.
As we've discussed countless times now, if EZY felt they'd get more yield operating those routes from LTN then they would do so!
They are certainly not just going to shift routes over to please LTN fanboys on here who for some god forsaken reason would like to see EZY consolidated at LTN because like has also been discussed... there is little if any commercial gain in doing so.
I'm never one to rule anything out... but I really struggle to see any credible reasoning from your posts, just wishful thinking.
Agreed. Routes like Asturias, Bilbao and Prague which EZY don't currently have in their Luton schedule would fit in well and they could really take on Vueling by adding frequencies to Amsterdam and Barcelona and growing other routes like Glasgow, Munich etc.
Pardon my ignorance but why would there be an appetite for EZY to move those routes you've suggested from STN over to LTN in light of today's Jet2 announcement?
I find it very unlikely Jet2 will be flying to Asturias, Bilbao etc. OK Prague possibly if they choose to add to the Jet2 Citybreak offering as well.
If anything I'd expect Malaga, Palma, Ibiza from EZY's STN network would get the chop. But equally, it could go the other way.
As we've discussed countless times now, if EZY felt they'd get more yield operating those routes from LTN then they would do so!
They are certainly not just going to shift routes over to please LTN fanboys on here who for some god forsaken reason would like to see EZY consolidated at LTN because like has also been discussed... there is little if any commercial gain in doing so.
I'm never one to rule anything out... but I really struggle to see any credible reasoning from your posts, just wishful thinking.
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Why do you ask questions on here when you have your own answers and reasoning's already?
Pardon my ignorance but why would there be an appetite for EZY to move those routes you've suggested from STN over to LTN in light of today's Jet2 announcement?
I find it very unlikely Jet2 will be flying to Asturias, Bilbao etc. OK Prague possibly if they choose to add to the Jet2 Citybreak offering as well.
If anything I'd expect Malaga, Palma, Ibiza from EZY's STN network would get the chop. But equally, it could go the other way.
As we've discussed countless times now, if EZY felt they'd get more yield operating those routes from LTN then they would do so!
They are certainly not just going to shift routes over to please LTN fanboys on here who for some god forsaken reason would like to see EZY consolidated at LTN because like has also been discussed... there is little if any commercial gain in doing so.
I'm never one to rule anything out... but I really struggle to see any credible reasoning from your posts, just wishful thinking.
Why do you ask questions on here when you have your own answers and reasoning's already?
Pardon my ignorance but why would there be an appetite for EZY to move those routes you've suggested from STN over to LTN in light of today's Jet2 announcement?
I find it very unlikely Jet2 will be flying to Asturias, Bilbao etc. OK Prague possibly if they choose to add to the Jet2 Citybreak offering as well.
If anything I'd expect Malaga, Palma, Ibiza from EZY's STN network would get the chop. But equally, it could go the other way.
As we've discussed countless times now, if EZY felt they'd get more yield operating those routes from LTN then they would do so!
They are certainly not just going to shift routes over to please LTN fanboys on here who for some god forsaken reason would like to see EZY consolidated at LTN because like has also been discussed... there is little if any commercial gain in doing so.
I'm never one to rule anything out... but I really struggle to see any credible reasoning from your posts, just wishful thinking.
There's going to be a fair bit of 'sour grapes' and 'clutching at straws' over this announcement. If Jet2 had announced LTN as their new base, would anyone be suggesting that ZB or EZY might shut up shop and move their operation elsewhere?
This forum is so unbelievably predictable when it comes to certain threads and those who post.
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Putting easyJet's Stansted operations aside, at this current stage easyJet should be concentrating on adding more frequencies to specific routes either to keep up with competition, increase passengers numbers or to offer more convenient timings. Services like Zurich, Munich, Madrid, Ibiza, Hamburg, Dubrovnik & Porto could all do with this.
Obviously easyJet has a good operation at Stansted as stated by some on the Stansted thread but I still can't see it. The base will just keep shrinking for example as you said if Prague is added by Jet2 it will be a blow to easyJet and they'll end the route and shrink the base yet again.
Don't you see the pattern? easyJet have added routes like Naples, Munich, Split, Copenhagen & Dubrovnik to its Luton base that were all operated from Stansted before and the Stansted routes have suffered with Copenhagen gone and the other routes reduced in frequency.
Obviously easyJet has a good operation at Stansted as stated by some on the Stansted thread but I still can't see it. The base will just keep shrinking for example as you said if Prague is added by Jet2 it will be a blow to easyJet and they'll end the route and shrink the base yet again.
Don't you see the pattern? easyJet have added routes like Naples, Munich, Split, Copenhagen & Dubrovnik to its Luton base that were all operated from Stansted before and the Stansted routes have suffered with Copenhagen gone and the other routes reduced in frequency.
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What is also worth noting is that with the down turn in demand for places like Egypt, Tunisia, Turkey etc... There is now an increase in demand for the more 'traditional' offerings of ALC, AGP, PMI, FAO, Greece etc...
Time will tell.
Time will tell.
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How do you know that they are performing better than at STN?
As you say... Munich, Naples, Split, Dubrovnik and Bodrum still operate from Stansted - in some cases at a higher frequency than they do from Luton. That says all you need to know really.
There is room for both airports in some cases. Of course LTN is the focus for EZY's growth and that's why you're seeing those routes introduced from LTN as well. As they do so, that is bound to have some impact on the size of their STN network.
In the case of CPH, that moved over to LTN completely and look how that one's turned out!!
How do you know that they are performing better than at STN?
As you say... Munich, Naples, Split, Dubrovnik and Bodrum still operate from Stansted - in some cases at a higher frequency than they do from Luton. That says all you need to know really.
There is room for both airports in some cases. Of course LTN is the focus for EZY's growth and that's why you're seeing those routes introduced from LTN as well. As they do so, that is bound to have some impact on the size of their STN network.
In the case of CPH, that moved over to LTN completely and look how that one's turned out!!
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You guys seem to have a short memory...
I don't understand why people think easyjet will shrink or close their Stansted operations. and will be of benefit to LTN, with Jet2 moving in up the road...
When Vueling came to Luton, easyjet have done exactly the opposite and increased frequencies to Amsterdam and Barcelona. Also this is what happened when Ryanair and eaasyJet competed on the Copenhagen route.
Whats to say easyJet won't do the same at Stansted with Jet2 on overlapping routes?!
I don't understand why people think easyjet will shrink or close their Stansted operations. and will be of benefit to LTN, with Jet2 moving in up the road...
When Vueling came to Luton, easyjet have done exactly the opposite and increased frequencies to Amsterdam and Barcelona. Also this is what happened when Ryanair and eaasyJet competed on the Copenhagen route.
Whats to say easyJet won't do the same at Stansted with Jet2 on overlapping routes?!
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This is the artist impression of the new landside terminal extension. OK it looks like a shopping centre but that's fine with me.
The impression is from just inside the main entrance for departing passengers looking across into the site of the former bus station. The security screening area is off to the right while arrivals can be seen through Starbucks on the extreme left.
Got to say I think it actually looks very good
The impression is from just inside the main entrance for departing passengers looking across into the site of the former bus station. The security screening area is off to the right while arrivals can be seen through Starbucks on the extreme left.
Got to say I think it actually looks very good
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Lets just see what happens with easyJet's Stansted base in the future and call it a day. As I've said before I'm not a 'fanboy' just because I'm suggesting things that aren't in favour of Stansted. It is a case of speculation but isn't that what your doing suggesting that the easyJet base will stay? No one knows that's why it's speculation, we all have to just wait and see what happens only time will tell.
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This is the artist impression of the new landside terminal extension. OK it looks like a shopping centre but that's fine with me.
The impression is from just inside the main entrance for departing passengers looking across into the site of the former bus station. The security screening area is off to the right while arrivals can be seen through Starbucks on the extreme left.
Got to say I think it actually looks very good
The impression is from just inside the main entrance for departing passengers looking across into the site of the former bus station. The security screening area is off to the right while arrivals can be seen through Starbucks on the extreme left.
Got to say I think it actually looks very good
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Actually, I think the Jet2 decision is a great one for Stansted and good luck to them.