British Airways

[cornishsimon]

one ticket baggage all the way you are correct
as far as im aware bags have to be collected and then re-checked in SA ?




cs

[FFHKG]

When I travelled to CPT a few years back, it was necessary to clear immigration and customs at JNB, hence bags had to be collected in international arrival followed by a short walk to domestic departures check-in and bags checked back in for the JNB/CPT flight which is classed as a domestic sector. You will probably need to allow a minimum of 60 mins for the whole process especially if a few international flights are arriving at the same time.

[PAXboy]

Thanks. The time for connection was booked through the BA site, so we must reckon that that's OK (!).

Pity about the bag relay, the last time I went through JNB it was a deliberate break not a connection. Cheers.

Any ideas on:
The domestic sectors are (of course) BA/Comair who state one hand case only. If I recall correctly, the long haul allowance 'trumps' the domestic? Especially when it's one ticket and the same carrier?

[Fairdealfrank]

When I travelled to CPT a few years back, it was necessary to clear immigration and customs at JNB, hence bags had to be collected in international arrival followed by a short walk to domestic departures check-in and bags checked back in for the JNB/CPT flight which is classed as a domestic sector. You will probably need to allow a minimum of 60 mins for the whole process especially if a few international flights are arriving at the same time.

Would be inclined to allow more than 60 minutes, just in case. Think of all the waits: border control, baggage reclaim, checkin/bag drop, security. There's also a possibility of delays if you're cutting it fine (it's called "sod's law"!). Give yourself more time and avoid getting stressed.

That said, there are plenty of flights between JNB and CPT!

[VentureGo]

New Livery

Recently came across this as a suggested new livery on searching British Airways liveries.
It could be a nice "Evolution" of their current livery. My one comment would be to taper the red curve on the tail to a narrow tip (similar to that used at top of front fuselage). This would expose more blue on tip of tail to display the "To Fly, To Serve" crest, similar to tail on "Landor" livery but with modern twist.

Thoughts?!

[DaveReidUK]

Originally Posted by VentureGo

Recently came across this as a suggested new livery on searching British Airways liveries.

Hmmmm.

Appears to originate from Aviation Design - Modified Airliner Photos, where spotters with nothing better to do can show off their Photoshop skills and, er, design talent.

[CabinCrewe]

which is of equal interest regardless of the source, "spotters" or not.

[DaveReidUK]

As you wish, though some might argue that if it had originated from a design agency that does real liveries for real airlines to paint on real aircraft, it would have been of rather more interest.

Or alarm, depending on one's opinion of it.

[LadyL2013]

That tail is far too close to the Delta one for my liking. I like the one they currently have.

[Libertine Winno]

Yeah definitely too Delta-ish that one!

Interesting to bring it up though, BA must be due a livery and/or uniform update in the next few years given that the current products have been in place for, what, a decade now?

[cornishsimon]

What's wrong with the current livery ?


cs

[davidjohnson6]

Changing a company's branding costs a huge pile of cash - it's far more than buying some new paint. Communicating a new image to customers around the world and getting said customers to recognise the new imge is a long and difficult exercise for which a benefit should be obtained.

If BA are to embark on this project, there needs to be a compelling reason for it.

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

Essentially the current livery was launched on Concorde in 1997, some 18 years ago. It was introduced to the wider fleet a few years later, and has been tweaked on the aircraft a few times since. Given it's just one them the UK superbrand again, I am not sure there's an urge to change somethinfg that remains incredibly effective. Remember BA often rely on brand loyalty to make up for their inability to compete on hard product.

[ATNotts]

Remember BA often rely on brand loyalty to make up for their inability to compete on hard product.

Away from London; just how much UK wide "brand loyalty" is there to a company that really doesn't serve the customer?

No before anyone jumps I know that London is the most important air transport market in UK, but to the rest of us (the majority) outside of the southeast is as likely to be towards Lufthansa, KLM or Emirates as "London Airways".

[VentureGo]

Given it's just one them the UK superbrand again, I am not sure there's an urge to change somethinfg that remains incredibly effective

The example given is more an evolution of current branding, keeping all current elements of the brand for marketing and corporate use intact. The suggestion was, if the livery was to be used, the red on the tail should be drastically reduced to a taper copying the style of the "ribbon" on front fuselage, which would allow space on the tip of the tail for the Crest, as it appears on the "Landor" livery (Inset on original post), which had itself been reversed/inverted in colour from predominently red tail fin on previous livery to accomodate Crest:
Evolution ?

[Approaching Minima]

Is there a list anywhere of planned Dreamliner deliveries for British Airways? A colleague told me they are expecting one per month for the next year or so.

[br8fmr]

British Airways Boeing B787srs Fleet List

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

Away from London; just how much UK wide "brand loyalty" is there to a company that really doesn't serve the customer?

It's been measured to be high, a trusted quality brand. Look, I know they're occasionally pretty awful and cancel MAN shuttles at the drop of a hat etc, but surprisingly, they've kept BHD, LBA and are re-launching INV alongside ABZ/EDI/GLA/NCL/MAN and also JER if you count LGW and add in DUB in terms of the wider islands. Maybe they listened. Clearly they don't just serve London in the UK and Ireland. They haven't got the cost base or even the know how to serve point to point UK-elsewhere alas.
The UK brand they project is the quiet power people speak of, the UK brand to the world. They don't wrap themselves in the flag by accident, now you might say "Want to look a flag carrier then act like one" but no one knows how to make a profit doing that sadly. Ask Air France.

Also aren't Lufthansa on strike? It's contagious.

[br8fmr]

jethros clearly states delivery months for 2016 789's, if anybody knows it jethros will.
GZBKCBoeing B789938621 / 36025 Oct 15Union Flag
'To Fly, To Serve'Regd 23 Oct 15

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(GZBKD)Boeing B789938618 / 361On order. Due 23 Nov 15

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(GZBKE)Boeing B789938620 / 374On order. Due 25 Nov 15

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(GZBKG)Boeing B789938623 / 396On order. Due Feb 16 (TBC)

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(GZBKH)Boeing B789938624 / 404On order. Due Feb 16 (TBC)

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(GZBKI)Boeing B789938625 / 406On order. Due Mar 16 (TBC)

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(GZBKJ)Boeing B789938626 / 424On order. Due Apr/May 16 (TBC)

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(GZBKK)Boeing B789938627 / 442On order. Due Jun 16 (TBC)

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(GZBKL)Boeing B789938628 / 451On order. Due Jul 16 (TBC)

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(GZBKM)Boeing B789938629 / 461On order. Due Jul/Aug 16 (TBC)

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(GZBKM)Boeing B789938631 / On order. Due Sep 16 (TBC)

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(GZBKO)Boeing B789938630 / On order. Due Sep/Oct 16 (TBC)

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(GZBKP)Boeing B789938632 / On order. Due Nov 16 (TBC)

[ATNotts]

"Want to look a flag carrier then act like one" but no one knows how to make a profit doing that sadly. Ask Air France.

Also aren't Lufthansa on strike? It's contagious.

LH seem to manage to serve Germany pretty well, though away from FRA and MUC, mainly though a subsidiary. As for strikes, LH has been on and off strike for a year now, if it isn't the flight deck crew, then it's the cabin staff, and if it isn't them it's ground staff. They are an industrial shambles at the moment.

Goes for quite a bit of German commerce these days (e.g. Amazon, DB, the child care sector).