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Yes. If somebody reclines in front of me, my knees have to go to the side of my seat. It's not my fault, so why should I put up with it just so somebody in front can lie at a 3-5 degree flatter angle?
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By the same regard, why should someone be denied the ability to sit comfortably, never mind sleep, on a long haul flight because the person sitting in front decides to intrude into your seating area?
The person who is reclining is increasing their personal space, thus taking away space from the person behind. Surely it's less fair for the person who's losing space, rather than the person who is being denied even more space.
The person who is reclining is increasing their personal space, thus taking away space from the person behind. Surely it's less fair for the person who's losing space, rather than the person who is being denied even more space.
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losing space, rather than the person who is being denied even more space.
Originally Posted by fjencl View Post
British Airways to wet-lease A319 capacity in late 1Q18
Where are the A319's coming from, anybody know.........
British Airways to wet-lease A319 capacity in late 1Q18
Where are the A319's coming from, anybody know.........
Did someone mention pensions?
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Why should someone be denied the chance of some sleep on long haul simply because you refuse to shell out the relative pittance for extra legroom seating?
And believe me, they're going to get less sleep with my knees crushed into their seat than they would if they chose not to be selfish in the first place.
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If nobody reclines their seat, nobody has a problem.
So no good if you're on the last row, next to the W/c's
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No other reason than curiosity, but I'm wondering how the BACF crews feel about this expansion of weekend flights from the rest of the UK and now Gatwick which started last year and now seems to be becoming a permanent feature.
Presumably one of the few benefits of a BACF job was that, for years, weekend work was fairly limited because of the LCY restrictions. But now it seems that BACF will soon become a full 24/7 operation and one of the few benefits is likely to disappear.
Has this change been welcomed amongst those crews ?
Presumably one of the few benefits of a BACF job was that, for years, weekend work was fairly limited because of the LCY restrictions. But now it seems that BACF will soon become a full 24/7 operation and one of the few benefits is likely to disappear.
Has this change been welcomed amongst those crews ?
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[/BAW state BACF will operate over some of the ex MON LGW slots for them this summer.
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but you don't get to make your problems someone elses because you're not prepared to accept the relatively poor product offered in the class of travel you purchased.
If you're suggesting that BA should upgrade me on some sort of medical grounds, or that they should put a height limit on economy seats, I'd be happy to support your cause. But they don't, and as far as I'm concerned, I have a right to not face physical injury just because somebody like you reckons they can get an extra 10 minutes sleep whilst pi*sing off the rest of those around them.
Presumably one of the few benefits of a BACF job was that, for years, weekend work was fairly limited because of the LCY restrictions.
Sunday afternoon/evening has always been a full service time for BACF, and while some of the rosters may be longer than before, eg EDI-LCY-PMI and return in a shift, they get you through your hours in quicker time than doing short sectors.
Furthermore, the pax apparently remain a decent bunch compared to the Luton lot to the same destinations. Someone observed that on the Mediterranean flights they very often see familiar faces from the rest of the year heading to Frankfurt or Edinburgh.
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As you'll find out when you end up in the seat in front of me, yes I can. I don't choose to kick the chair in front because I don't like it, the seat reclines into my knees and they naturally go into the back of it.
If you're suggesting that BA should upgrade me on some sort of medical grounds, or that they should put a height limit on economy seats, I'd be happy to support your cause. But they don't, and as far as I'm concerned, I have a right to not face physical injury just because somebody like you reckons they can get an extra 10 minutes sleep whilst pi*sing off the rest of those around them.
If you're suggesting that BA should upgrade me on some sort of medical grounds, or that they should put a height limit on economy seats, I'd be happy to support your cause. But they don't, and as far as I'm concerned, I have a right to not face physical injury just because somebody like you reckons they can get an extra 10 minutes sleep whilst pi*sing off the rest of those around them.
Anyway that aside, the issue is actually on the airline to resolve. 10 years ago, Qantas installed a hard shell, reclining seat in economy complete with a foot net on their A380 ie. it slides forward to create recline.I remember it to have been very comfortable (for an economy seat) on the 22 hours flying to Australia. So the technology exists to shove in more seats, not reduce hugely actual leg room and also enable a bit of recline.
Instead of a “my rights are more important than yours” debate, perhaps the energy would be better spent lobbying BA to install a seat in the same tune as installed by Qantas YEARS ago.
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