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Old 15th Dec 2015, 22:37
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I'm surprised the runway at SLZ is long enough to support tranatlantic flights.
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Old 15th Dec 2015, 23:02
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Dave - I think it's fairly obvious that CabinCrewe means Salzburg rather than an airport in Brazil. We all make mistakes with airport codes - be a bit forgiving...
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Old 15th Dec 2015, 23:12
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As well as being maintained at Gatwick, the A318s are also crewed from there and the SOP with the frequent fog at LCY is a divert to
LGW where onward arrangements would be waiting.
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 06:30
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Yes, cabin crew are certainly Gatwick based but when I was fortunate to use the service a couple of years ago the flight deck were Heathrow based. There was then a small team of LHR based LCY certified crew who operated the flights and also flew out of LHR. Has this now changed as LGW is now all Airbus?
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 07:02
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No the crewing is still the same and AFAIK the maintenance set up is still the same.

As others have said fundamentally LHR don't want inbound diversions from pretty much anywhere (capacity) so the default for the LCY flights is LGW.
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 07:58
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As well as being maintained at Gatwick, the A318s are also crewed from there
No longer maintained at LGW... Its now outsourced to Marshalls at Cambridge.
LGW have also given away the OpenSkies maintenance contract...... all part of the clear out before the rumoured LGW Engineering sell off
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 08:09
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Re the maintenance, my mistake, apologies..

Good luck.
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 21:08
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Originally Posted by Kiltrash
For what reason does the BA A318 from JFK to London City always seem to divert to Gatwick when there are weather issues at City??

Possible reasons are

No available slots at Heathrow?
Better connection from Gatwick to the City?
Southend not seen as posh enough for the executives?
The crew are based at Gatwick. Each day they report there and are driven by road to LCY, and take the flight as far as Shannon, where the pilots slip overnight, taking the next day's plane onwards to JFK.

This actually covers very efficiently a number of scenarios, but if LCY is fogged-in for the early morning inbound (not unknown ), the crew are already at Gatwick, their taxi is cancelled and they ferry the aircraft over to LCY later in the morning (when it usually clears up) and then go on to Shannon. There are no BA crew at Southend to handle this. The slip at Shannon helps as doing such the ferry to LCY, then flying to SNN, then on to JFK, would be outside flight time limits.

Given that crews are (very simplistically) rostered and paid by the flying hour, the crew costs are not increased as some might think. The cabin crew work on a separate basis as they are not required for the ferry from LGW to LCY, and thus report to LCY and work through to JFK.

There is also a very efficient operation springs into action by Special services at Gatwick to whisk the inbound diverted pax by car to wherever they are going around London, to minimise their delay.
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 21:42
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LCY

errr. has anyone thought it might just be a bit more efficient to 'base' the JFK crews at LCY? So BA are paying duty time for four dead runs every day to and from LGW. Just another example of BALPA protectionist - insert your own adjective.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 08:56
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Much less efficient and more costly to open a separate crew base for 1 or 2 flights a day when you have a major base a few miles away .BA know what they're doing !
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 09:19
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Now that the 734s are gone I have a feeling that BA now have a Airbus flight deck base at LGW now and the LCY flights are cabin and flight deck crewed by LGW crew ?


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Old 17th Dec 2015, 10:02
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The LCY flight deck are from LHR. LCY is a specific fleet, pilots fly a mix of routes from LCY and the remainder of their flying for the month at LHR. It's quite a senior fleet.
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The LCY flight deck are from LHR. LCY is a specific fleet, pilots fly a mix of routes from LCY and the remainder of their flying for the month at LHR. It's quite a senior fleet.
Out of interest, does that mean that the same crews fly both the A318s and the ERJs?
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 13:22
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No, the Embraers are operated by a Franchise, (City Flyer?) and are not BA operated aircraft. The 318 pilots operate all Airbus SH types in BA.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 14:25
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No, the Embraers are operated by a Franchise, (City Flyer?) and are not BA operated aircraft.
It's actually a wholly owned subsidiary with an office in Didsbury nowadays. Passenger handling is outsourced to keep costs down and there is no ability to move between BA and BA CityFlyer in terms of the seniority list, also keeping costs down.
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Old 2nd Jan 2016, 23:24
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Am I correct in saying BA have started a GLA - SZG service using LGW mainline equipment?
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Old 3rd Jan 2016, 10:49
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Originally Posted by Fidel Castro
Am I correct in saying BA have started a GLA - SZG service using LGW mainline equipment?
Yes they are selling this route and it does have a BA2xxx flight number. Which I always thought was exclusive to Gatwick.
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Old 3rd Jan 2016, 16:59
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Originally Posted by SealinkBF
Yes they are selling this route and it does have a BA2xxx flight number. Which I always thought was exclusive to Gatwick.
A/c operates LGW-GLA-SZG & v.v.
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Old 3rd Jan 2016, 17:04
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And doing well by all accounts (if loads and prices anything to go by). Lets hope it doesnt flop like EDI-IBZ (whos idea was that?) and is back for W16. Even some BA advertising to be seen promoting the regional scheduled route for once.
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Old 3rd Jan 2016, 17:23
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Doing very well so far and already in the pipeline for 2016/17. Marketing by LGW, not LHR
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