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BA318, you are absolutely right, my neighbour works for JLR and goes to Graz at very least once a month. I hope some decent 'leisure' fares do become available, as it's a lovely city to visit.
Very happy VIE is finally back on the routes served from BHX, this used to do very well in terms of loads (no idea of yield) when served by BA/Maersk (albeit on a much smaller aircraft....I hope this route can sustain an A320 long term).
HEL and RIX would be nice now but in terms of European capitals, BHX has currently got nearly all other realistic ones covered, a huge improvement on the situation even just 5 years ago.
Very happy VIE is finally back on the routes served from BHX, this used to do very well in terms of loads (no idea of yield) when served by BA/Maersk (albeit on a much smaller aircraft....I hope this route can sustain an A320 long term).
HEL and RIX would be nice now but in terms of European capitals, BHX has currently got nearly all other realistic ones covered, a huge improvement on the situation even just 5 years ago.
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HEL and RIX would be nice now but in terms of European capitals, BHX has currently got nearly all other realistic ones covered, a huge improvement on the situation even just 5 years ago.
Oslo is the big one that's missing
Also Geneva year round, plus Valencia would be a nice addition too
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How about Rotterdam...........oops poor taste as flybe have chopped it from early January and Manchester as well.
Didn't see that one coming............oh wait a minute.
Quite severe cuts from Flybe this January, happens to a certain extent each year but this one is up there as a bad one.
DJ6 -Cheers it was a bit tongue in cheek and I am sure they will calm down a little in due course
Diversion day last Saturday
With permission of the photographer a link to some pictures - note the C5 on taxyway T and the use of the remotes. Pretty good day for an airfield not that blessed with a lot of space.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/antono...7676694109660/
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How about Rotterdam...........oops poor taste as flybe have chopped it from early January and Manchester as well.
Didn't see that one coming............oh wait a minute.
Quite severe cuts from Flybe this January, happens to a certain extent each year but this one is up there as a bad one.
DJ6 -Cheers it was a bit tongue in cheek and I am sure they will calm down a little in due course
Diversion day last Saturday
With permission of the photographer a link to some pictures - note the C5 on taxyway T and the use of the remotes. Pretty good day for an airfield not that blessed with a lot of space.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/antono...7676694109660/
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Another diversion day and although BHX didn't quite accommodate all it was another good effort. Three BA City Flyer went to Manchester at least two to East Mids and one to Bristol which I am sure would have possibly come to BHX.
This time diverts from London City, Southampton, Gatwick, Stansted, Luton, East Mids, Exeter, Cardiff in the last 24 hours, possibly as many as 30 counting bizjets although some of these seem to have filed direct BHX and might not get listed as such.
Nothing as taxing as C5's or 747's but still with the holiday period, only one airline handler it could not have been easy.
Does anyone know if BHX did limit the numbers due coaches or staffing which of course would be understandable.
Emirates
Just one more day for the switch between EK39 and EK37 with the A388, it will be interesting to see how this affects the overall figures but on the face of it, a smart move as EK37 is still consistently showing the higher load factor.
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This time diverts from London City, Southampton, Gatwick, Stansted, Luton, East Mids, Exeter, Cardiff in the last 24 hours, possibly as many as 30 counting bizjets although some of these seem to have filed direct BHX and might not get listed as such.
Nothing as taxing as C5's or 747's but still with the holiday period, only one airline handler it could not have been easy.
Does anyone know if BHX did limit the numbers due coaches or staffing which of course would be understandable.
Emirates
Just one more day for the switch between EK39 and EK37 with the A388, it will be interesting to see how this affects the overall figures but on the face of it, a smart move as EK37 is still consistently showing the higher load factor.
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Some more tinkerings
Newquay starts at 8 a week with two on a Sunday and then goes 9 a week when a second Saturday starts high season.
Bordeaux starts at daily quite an increase with an early morning departure on the 175. BHX now showing 4 x 175's in the morning.
Aberdeen has two of the four flights operated by the BHX based aircraft.
Last Dusseldorf inbound 19.05 which is odd.
Jersey departures 07.00, 13.45 and 14.20 which seems a strange spacing of flights.
Seems to be at least 13 based but the schedule is far from complete.
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Newquay starts at 8 a week with two on a Sunday and then goes 9 a week when a second Saturday starts high season.
Bordeaux starts at daily quite an increase with an early morning departure on the 175. BHX now showing 4 x 175's in the morning.
Aberdeen has two of the four flights operated by the BHX based aircraft.
Last Dusseldorf inbound 19.05 which is odd.
Jersey departures 07.00, 13.45 and 14.20 which seems a strange spacing of flights.
Seems to be at least 13 based but the schedule is far from complete.
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Not a bad accolade to get anyway - all good for the PR / spin machine.
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TBH I'm quite surprised considering that Flybe, with their frequent cancellations and delays, is one of their main operators!
Here we go yet again! Posters making statements without knowing any FACTS at all. It really is getting bad on PPRuNe and the moderators should put a stop to it!
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Certainly. Of my last 5 flights with Flybe, 4 were delayed, from 30 minutes to just over 2 hours. Quite a high average for 1 passenger, hence my post. Not only that, but flying often from DUS (on Eurowings - having given up with Flybe) I like to keep an eye on the Flybe flights and again have (in the past 3 months) noticed hefty delays. Of course, I might just be the airline's jinx!
Btw, I didn't post a FACT! I expressly stated that I was surprised. And I base that "surprise" on my personal experience flying with the airline.
Nor was I commenting on an aircraft accident on which there were no confirmed details about at the time of my post.
Btw, I didn't post a FACT! I expressly stated that I was surprised. And I base that "surprise" on my personal experience flying with the airline.
Nor was I commenting on an aircraft accident on which there were no confirmed details about at the time of my post.
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Of all the destinatinations I fly to I look forward to DUS with Flybe, in my experience its 99% on time or early. Trouble is that is subjective and I cannot support that with data or advise whether this is better or not than other airlines, and I, like others, have flown with many.
Rather, the posts in this thread are usually of a calibre that make them valuable in terms of making better informed choices. Therefore it remains difficult to understand how one of brums biggest operators did not manage to impair their punctuality if these 4 flights are typical of its performance.
I have not used eurowings on this route yet, perhaps I will. Or perhaps I will check the UK CAA and deutsche LBA data first.
Rather, the posts in this thread are usually of a calibre that make them valuable in terms of making better informed choices. Therefore it remains difficult to understand how one of brums biggest operators did not manage to impair their punctuality if these 4 flights are typical of its performance.
I have not used eurowings on this route yet, perhaps I will. Or perhaps I will check the UK CAA and deutsche LBA data first.
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American Airlines have flown the nest with the last flight departing earlier. Inbound loads remained good right until the end and outbound was not too bad until today. Looks a pretty straightforward case of high fares, few pax, low fares and lots of pax and the net result insufficient yield.
I assume BHX will be in the fray eventually for Norwegian to NYC, along with Belfast, Bristol etc.
Only Delta left out of the big 3 to try their hand and thus far, nearly but not quite. However Jetblue will be worth watching if they do take the 321 NEO LR.
Monarch/Flybe - part of the most punctual airport article was some good reading for Monarch and they probably helped BHX having a spare aircraft and nil cancellations.
Flybe is a difficult one as they seem to have phases with the Dash 8 where they have a run of issues but cancellations seem to have reduced. The Flybe website has a 3 month check for flight status and anyone with time on their hands can go back through it.
One thing that has disappointed me is the use of the 175 on certain routes. Dussledorf is a prime example with Eurowings adding shiney new A320's and Flybe's response is to make the BHX all prop yet you check fleet wide and there are 175's on ridiculous routes and that includes BHX-GLA and EDI although they do become all prop next summer. However the 175's are still not showing next summer on the likes of DUS or AMS, just more Dash 8's.
BMIR - Possible more to come other than Graz.
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I assume BHX will be in the fray eventually for Norwegian to NYC, along with Belfast, Bristol etc.
Only Delta left out of the big 3 to try their hand and thus far, nearly but not quite. However Jetblue will be worth watching if they do take the 321 NEO LR.
Monarch/Flybe - part of the most punctual airport article was some good reading for Monarch and they probably helped BHX having a spare aircraft and nil cancellations.
Flybe is a difficult one as they seem to have phases with the Dash 8 where they have a run of issues but cancellations seem to have reduced. The Flybe website has a 3 month check for flight status and anyone with time on their hands can go back through it.
One thing that has disappointed me is the use of the 175 on certain routes. Dussledorf is a prime example with Eurowings adding shiney new A320's and Flybe's response is to make the BHX all prop yet you check fleet wide and there are 175's on ridiculous routes and that includes BHX-GLA and EDI although they do become all prop next summer. However the 175's are still not showing next summer on the likes of DUS or AMS, just more Dash 8's.
BMIR - Possible more to come other than Graz.
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darkbarly, yes it is subjective and it can depend on a number of factors. I used to fly the DUS route both with BEE and EWG (in their various guises over the years). After having a series of poor experiences with lengthy delays on BEE I switched to using EWG exclusively (on this route). Of course EWG's time keeping is not 100% but I certainly and genuinely perceive it to be on average (for me) better than BEE. I'm not anti BEE or anything like that. It's just the way things evolved on my regular travels between DUS and BHX (average of 24 rotations per annum).
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Being reported elsewhere two new routes ex BHX Gothenburg and Nuremburg both 6x week with BMI regional from April 2017. More great news
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American Airlines have flown the nest with the last flight departing earlier
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Thanks for your as usual informative post
With reference to the chances of another American airline starting services from BHX they are essentially nil for the foreseeable future.
United may! I hope: Consider increasing their services from the airport but as said a multitude of times - its down the motorway(s) (very slowly) to LHR or up the M6 again quite slowly to MAN.
I hope for more "Niche" services from Brum aka MAN to American tourist Cities in the future (I would use SFO for example) so AA leave the facility for the 3rd time. (Yes I was a regular to ORD with them.)
Its time to be realistic about growth prospects. Eastern Europe obviously holds promise as does India by the looks of things to come.
CAT III
With reference to the chances of another American airline starting services from BHX they are essentially nil for the foreseeable future.
United may! I hope: Consider increasing their services from the airport but as said a multitude of times - its down the motorway(s) (very slowly) to LHR or up the M6 again quite slowly to MAN.
I hope for more "Niche" services from Brum aka MAN to American tourist Cities in the future (I would use SFO for example) so AA leave the facility for the 3rd time. (Yes I was a regular to ORD with them.)
Its time to be realistic about growth prospects. Eastern Europe obviously holds promise as does India by the looks of things to come.
CAT III
Does anybody have any info on what is going on with the remedial work in the area in front of the 33 glideslope? Everytime I look at it the more I think that it looks like a flooded Flanders battlefield. I haven'r seen any work taking place but the puddles just seem to get bigger. Why is the runway classified as wet when it hasn't rained for days? Answers on a postcard please to stand 74.
