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I don't how a leisure destination isn't a 'proper' long haul route personally. Airlines make money flying holidaymakers to the sun/snow as well as carrying suits from meeting to meeting, if leisure long haul flying was as undesirable as some on here seem to make out then airlines would have ditched it years ago...
As for differentiating between "proper" and "leisure" long haul routes, i am guessing that what Coathanger meant was IT versus scheduled routes.
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Don't forget these ' new' routes that are due to start in the next 18 months operated by Thomson , Dubai DWC & New Orleans MSY (yes a one off but still a 'new route ' ) Aqaba in Jordan is being offered for 2017 too , not sure if this is a new route from BHX I'm not that clued up.
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When I refer to the leisure long haul routes not being "proper" routes, its more due to the fact that they are often served only say once or twice a week or through package holidays. Of course airlines make profit on these leisure routes otherwise as you say they wouldn't operate them.
Maybe "proper" isn't the right way of describing them. Whilst I accept there is demand for them, the fact the traffic is mostly people from the UK travelling abroad for holidays and not people travelling in both directions makes them seem less important.
With regards to Gatwick yes they may well say its more like 50, however recent evidence has shown that less than 10 of these are served on a daily basis, most if not all of which are also served from Heathrow.
Maybe "proper" isn't the right way of describing them. Whilst I accept there is demand for them, the fact the traffic is mostly people from the UK travelling abroad for holidays and not people travelling in both directions makes them seem less important.
With regards to Gatwick yes they may well say its more like 50, however recent evidence has shown that less than 10 of these are served on a daily basis, most if not all of which are also served from Heathrow.
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Just hope it is their A330, I was going to say a long way from home but there again so is Sunwing.
However I would love to see the reaction of Gary & Sandra from Oldbury when they board their flight to Malaga
Do you think someone producing the on-line brochure was bored one afternoon and had a map and a dartboard handy and it landed on Tibet?
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Just hope it is their A330, I was going to say a long way from home but there again so is Sunwing.
However I would love to see the reaction of Gary & Sandra from Oldbury when they board their flight to Malaga
Do you think someone producing the on-line brochure was bored one afternoon and had a map and a dartboard handy and it landed on Tibet?
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Getonittt try doing a dummy booking of a package holiday to the Costa del Sol using the Sunday departure next summer 2017 from either BHX or LBA on the Thomson Holidays website as it shows flights to be operated by "Tibet Airlines", like you say the Thomson flight only website still show airline operator "TBA"
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Yes I know but what I'm saying is that the flight number is the usual TOM7776/7 up until the end of april then it has TBA0000/0000 after that on the Thomson site which means it is to be announced but some goofy default has translated that into Tibet airlines .
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Birmingham airport will soon drop its hugely unpopular drop-off fee which is levied on passengers arriving by car.
According to a report in the Coventry Telegraph it would appear the fee will be dropped in time for the busy summer 2017 season.
The fee was brought in some nine years ago. It will be scrapped as part of the airport’s £100 million investment programme.
At present the charge starts at £1 for the first 10 minutes. But if passengers are tardy in getting out of the car and removing their luggage the fee soon becomes £7 (for 20 mins) and thereafter it rises by a further £5 per minute.
Now Birmingham is set to create a new drop-off car park which will provide free parking for 30 mins and be linked by a covered walkway to the terminal.
According to a report in the Coventry Telegraph it would appear the fee will be dropped in time for the busy summer 2017 season.
The fee was brought in some nine years ago. It will be scrapped as part of the airport’s £100 million investment programme.
At present the charge starts at £1 for the first 10 minutes. But if passengers are tardy in getting out of the car and removing their luggage the fee soon becomes £7 (for 20 mins) and thereafter it rises by a further £5 per minute.
Now Birmingham is set to create a new drop-off car park which will provide free parking for 30 mins and be linked by a covered walkway to the terminal.
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About flaming time! Regulars will have noticed how ridiculous it has become when observing the amount of cars parked in all sorts of nooks and crannies all around the roads approaching the airport. Should the management be congratulated? Most definitely not! They should never have introduced those ridiculous and GREEDY charges in the first place! Now, when will they change the FORCED zig-zag route through Duty Free? 
About flaming time! Regulars will have noticed how ridiculous it has become when observing the amount of cars parked in all sorts of nooks and crannies all around the roads approaching the airport. Should the management be congratulated? Most definitely not! They should never have introduced those ridiculous and GREEDY charges in the first place! Now, when will they change the FORCED zig-zag route through Duty Free?
BHX is indeed to applauded for putting in proper free facilities.
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Parking/Eurowings/easyjet/Stats/Movements
Eurowings
The A320 is now operating the early morning and late Evening DUS Monday - Friday and Sunday leaving Saturday morning and afternoon as the CRJ9.
Summer 17 shows A319's DUS and HAM.
easyjet
Saturday Belfast restarts this week but the big talking point is summer 17 - no flights anywhere after 25 April. Is this work in progress, something more sinister or perhaps a complete change in schedule?
Geneva continues daily until 17 April and then a gap until 22 April for the Final flight with Belfast not bookable after 25/4.
Stats
July is out with some interesting figures including I believe record Dubai pax at 64690, some highly suspicious Qatar figures (way too low), some poor NYC loads but Barcelona 35K. I thought Lisbon was decent at 141 per flight and flybe returned some useful figures on Berlin, Stuttgart, Milan, Lyon.
Parking
In this crazy age of Health & Safety has this had anything to do with the decision and as similar to Hotel Tango I have witnessed erratic driving with queue jumping/maneuvering although I have not heard of any major accidents but I have seen the queues back on the A45 slip road. Whatever the reason it sounds very good.
Talking of ancillary income, another cracking week on the Elmdon and terminal side with GA, Freight (AN12 just landed), Air India delivery flight. Not sure what is made from these types of movements but certainly adds to the the numbers.
Pete
The A320 is now operating the early morning and late Evening DUS Monday - Friday and Sunday leaving Saturday morning and afternoon as the CRJ9.
Summer 17 shows A319's DUS and HAM.
easyjet
Saturday Belfast restarts this week but the big talking point is summer 17 - no flights anywhere after 25 April. Is this work in progress, something more sinister or perhaps a complete change in schedule?
Geneva continues daily until 17 April and then a gap until 22 April for the Final flight with Belfast not bookable after 25/4.
Stats
July is out with some interesting figures including I believe record Dubai pax at 64690, some highly suspicious Qatar figures (way too low), some poor NYC loads but Barcelona 35K. I thought Lisbon was decent at 141 per flight and flybe returned some useful figures on Berlin, Stuttgart, Milan, Lyon.
Parking
In this crazy age of Health & Safety has this had anything to do with the decision and as similar to Hotel Tango I have witnessed erratic driving with queue jumping/maneuvering although I have not heard of any major accidents but I have seen the queues back on the A45 slip road. Whatever the reason it sounds very good.
Talking of ancillary income, another cracking week on the Elmdon and terminal side with GA, Freight (AN12 just landed), Air India delivery flight. Not sure what is made from these types of movements but certainly adds to the the numbers.
Pete
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BHX is no different to many other airports in charging a king's ransom to drop off and pick up
Btw, I wasn't suggesting that BHX was alone in this, but I have yet to come across an airport on my side of the channel which charges for this.
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It kicked off after the Glasgow incident and there was no need for it. Just taking advantage of a situation to fill their pockets. May I remind you that before Glasgow, drop off and pick up was free of charge at all UK airports.
Btw, I wasn't suggesting that BHX was alone in this, but I have yet to come across an airport on my side of the channel which charges for this.
Btw, I wasn't suggesting that BHX was alone in this, but I have yet to come across an airport on my side of the channel which charges for this.