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So the "wiring problem" is out of their control and those pax whose flights were delayed by 3 hours or more (and 5 hours inbound in some cases) will not get compensation under EE rules?
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Monarch pay the handling agent, the handling agent pay the airport, whose responsibility it is to maintain the airport infrastructure so I would have thought. As to compo I cannot answer that, let those in the know have a say.
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I couldn't agree more. What is the point of spending millions to save 10-20 mins on the journey to London?
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Reported on another forum that Stockholm Arlanda will be a new destination for S17 at 3x weekly (Mon, Wed, Fri).
Reported on another forum that Stockholm Arlanda will be a new destination for S17 at 3x weekly (Mon, Wed, Fri).
Nice is now bookable for s17, but only showing 2pw, was 4pw in s16
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Press this Morning are reporting that a sub committed has been appointed which contains pro RW3 supporters.
The only bright spot was a letter signed by Birmingham MPs and business leaders who at least highlighted the extrodinairy damage this will inflict on regional airports.
Must confess it doesn't really tie in with comments from Lord O Neill.
At least the midlands are more vocal than Manchester !
The only bright spot was a letter signed by Birmingham MPs and business leaders who at least highlighted the extrodinairy damage this will inflict on regional airports.
Must confess it doesn't really tie in with comments from Lord O Neill.
At least the midlands are more vocal than Manchester !
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My prediction - R3 at LHR gets approved as does R2 at Gatwick. No real issues with expanding either of them but it should fall on the airport owners to pay for it or worse case the tax payers of the South East pay for it.
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Publicly, you're dead right, they are and they are garnering support. Not sure if MAN are just being indifferent, complacent or aloof - 'we'll be alright chaps' - but good luck to BHX for fighting your corner.
If MAN are taking a more prominent part behind the scenes, it would be nice just to have a little hint that was happening, Two very different approaches from MAN & BHX. If such were the case, it would be interesting to see which, if either, bears fruit.
At least the midlands are more vocal than Manchester !
If MAN are taking a more prominent part behind the scenes, it would be nice just to have a little hint that was happening, Two very different approaches from MAN & BHX. If such were the case, it would be interesting to see which, if either, bears fruit.
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New to the forum so bear with me.
Following the recent news that AA are to leave BHX from next year, one just has to wonder what BHX management think the airport can achieve for the region.
In the BBC article below they claim they are optimistic that another airline will fill the BHX-JFk route shortly - any idea which airline that might be?
American Airlines to stop Birmingham Airport flights - BBC News
BHX management, local business leaders and MP's seem to have the impression that HS2 will transform the airport by attracting passengers from across the HS2 network. Its hard to imagine that anybody from Manchester will choose to travel to BHX on HS2 as it will take them straight past MAN airport. Crewe is about equidistant between MAN and BHX, so with MAN greater range of flights you would expect people would head for MAN. As for Leeds and Sheffield, assuming HS3 or "Crossrail North" goes ahead, again MAN will be quicker to access the BHX. London - are passengers really going to travel up to BHX when there are 5 airports just as close or even closer. The only region I can see that will use BHX more as a result of HS2 is the east midlands, though I can't imagine that would increase passengers much.
Prime Minister urged to support regional airport expansion - Birmingham Post
Don't get me wrong, as a local I would love to see the airport grow and attract new routes. I'm just not sure how they hope to achieve it.
Following the recent news that AA are to leave BHX from next year, one just has to wonder what BHX management think the airport can achieve for the region.
In the BBC article below they claim they are optimistic that another airline will fill the BHX-JFk route shortly - any idea which airline that might be?
American Airlines to stop Birmingham Airport flights - BBC News
BHX management, local business leaders and MP's seem to have the impression that HS2 will transform the airport by attracting passengers from across the HS2 network. Its hard to imagine that anybody from Manchester will choose to travel to BHX on HS2 as it will take them straight past MAN airport. Crewe is about equidistant between MAN and BHX, so with MAN greater range of flights you would expect people would head for MAN. As for Leeds and Sheffield, assuming HS3 or "Crossrail North" goes ahead, again MAN will be quicker to access the BHX. London - are passengers really going to travel up to BHX when there are 5 airports just as close or even closer. The only region I can see that will use BHX more as a result of HS2 is the east midlands, though I can't imagine that would increase passengers much.
Prime Minister urged to support regional airport expansion - Birmingham Post
Don't get me wrong, as a local I would love to see the airport grow and attract new routes. I'm just not sure how they hope to achieve it.
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Any system needs a viable backup. This did not appear to be the case on 11/9 and led to misinformation. Seat allocation was abandoned but nor all staff knew that. Pax were being given mixed messages. The system is not just about computers....it is about processes and the processes failed. As a humble passenger on the day, the impression was one of chaos and lack of leadership.
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I fear you are right.
Lord O Neill said last week about HS2 bringing the midlands to within 40 minutes of London?
Comparable to many major airport transit times BUT as you say none of those other major airports have 5 airports in the queue ahead of them.
I fear you are right.
Lord O Neill said last week about HS2 bringing the midlands to within 40 minutes of London?
Comparable to many major airport transit times BUT as you say none of those other major airports have 5 airports in the queue ahead of them.
Personally I woud initially be trying to achieve a twenty four hour rail service to the airport now using existing lines and running a shuttle from the station that did not halt for three hours during the early hours. A lot of flights depart just after six am so a check-in two hours before would require arriving during this dead period, but as far as I am aware there is no rail service and if you do arrive at the station during this period you have to try and find the mythical bus that connects the two whilst essential maintenance is carried out or hoof it to the terminal with your bags.
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Monarch pay the handling agent, the handling agent pay the airport, whose responsibility it is to maintain the airport infrastructure so I would have thought. As to compo I cannot answer that, let those in the know have a say.
Every passenger who was delayed over 180 minutes (outgoing or incoming) on either of the two days due to the computer failure is entitled to 261/2004 compensation.
As you would expect (due to the extent of the problem) MON are, at the moment, refusing all claims indicating that the problem was outside their control.
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j636
Thank you for that but I can't find Bucharest bookable after 24 March and of course Blue Air increases their service from summer 2017.
flybe
Winter before Christmas sees EDI, GLA & BHD at 8 a day on a Monday only adding in an extra early morning BHX inbound - where does the aircraft go Tuesday-Friday? They all stop at Christmas for a while along with one Hanover and one Stuttgart which is routine for January and early February.
Eurowings
Odd things happening on some sites showing DUS as Germanwings A319 but now shows Eurowings again but seat-map confirms a change from the A320 to A319 and Manchester was the same the last time I looked - seat-map also shows an A319.
Monarch
Gibraltar still showing a winter break 8 Jan - 13 Feb so it appears to be happening.
As for 11/9 in a perfect world Monarch would pay out ASAP and take their revenge on those responsible to try and reduce further alienation of their customers but I suppose it is not as easy as that but makes their TV adverts look a little shallow even if the problem was not of their doing.
Thomson
Summer 2017 Timetable still indicating 7 short-haul based Thursday - Sunday. Alghero still bookable but no sign of Almeria which briefly came on line as it does most years then disappears.
Ryanair
Still no sign of 6 a week Ibiza and double daily Palma per the press release
tubby linton
Agreed in respect of summer but I would go a step further and say the whole issue of public transport has issues. I live 4 miles west and it doesn't matter what time of day it is I can't realistically use public transport comfortably if I have hold bags as it involves a walk, a bus, a walk and another bus or a walk to the train, into the city a walk across down and another train but I suppose it just isn't viable to cover all areas all of the time but like you in respect of the people mover surely in summer the extra cost would be good PR.
American
Loads seem to have increased recently but no doubt no coincidence that base fares have dropped and I assume money can't be made at this level and hence the chop. I don't think anyone can argue with that if that is what happened as it is clear their was a fare-structure change.
Also it is dropping to 4 a week in winter before it ends BHX departures Monday, Wednesday, Friday & Saturday.
Pete
Thank you for that but I can't find Bucharest bookable after 24 March and of course Blue Air increases their service from summer 2017.
flybe
Winter before Christmas sees EDI, GLA & BHD at 8 a day on a Monday only adding in an extra early morning BHX inbound - where does the aircraft go Tuesday-Friday? They all stop at Christmas for a while along with one Hanover and one Stuttgart which is routine for January and early February.
Eurowings
Odd things happening on some sites showing DUS as Germanwings A319 but now shows Eurowings again but seat-map confirms a change from the A320 to A319 and Manchester was the same the last time I looked - seat-map also shows an A319.
Monarch
Gibraltar still showing a winter break 8 Jan - 13 Feb so it appears to be happening.
As for 11/9 in a perfect world Monarch would pay out ASAP and take their revenge on those responsible to try and reduce further alienation of their customers but I suppose it is not as easy as that but makes their TV adverts look a little shallow even if the problem was not of their doing.
Thomson
Summer 2017 Timetable still indicating 7 short-haul based Thursday - Sunday. Alghero still bookable but no sign of Almeria which briefly came on line as it does most years then disappears.
Ryanair
Still no sign of 6 a week Ibiza and double daily Palma per the press release
tubby linton
Agreed in respect of summer but I would go a step further and say the whole issue of public transport has issues. I live 4 miles west and it doesn't matter what time of day it is I can't realistically use public transport comfortably if I have hold bags as it involves a walk, a bus, a walk and another bus or a walk to the train, into the city a walk across down and another train but I suppose it just isn't viable to cover all areas all of the time but like you in respect of the people mover surely in summer the extra cost would be good PR.
American
Loads seem to have increased recently but no doubt no coincidence that base fares have dropped and I assume money can't be made at this level and hence the chop. I don't think anyone can argue with that if that is what happened as it is clear their was a fare-structure change.
Also it is dropping to 4 a week in winter before it ends BHX departures Monday, Wednesday, Friday & Saturday.
Pete
Another negative post about Monarch 111 KAB, would you really like to see them out of business? You won your Eu 261 claim but have continued in your vendetta against the airline ever since.
What a thoroughly unpleasant individual you are .
What a thoroughly unpleasant individual you are .
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Winter before Christmas sees EDI, GLA & BHD at 8 a day on a Monday only adding in an extra early morning BHX inbound - where does the aircraft go Tuesday-Friday? They all stop at Christmas for a while along with one Hanover and one Stuttgart which is routine for January and early February.
Winter before Christmas sees EDI, GLA & BHD at 8 a day on a Monday only adding in an extra early morning BHX inbound - where does the aircraft go Tuesday-Friday? They all stop at Christmas for a while along with one Hanover and one Stuttgart which is routine for January and early February.