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Old 2nd Jan 2017, 22:02
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HAM-BHX 3/7 (A319/A320) in summer, previous summers were 6/7 (CR9, removed from fleet).
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 21:00
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Flybe 2017

Some more tinkerings

Newquay starts at 8 a week with two on a Sunday and then goes 9 a week when a second Saturday starts high season.

Bordeaux starts at daily quite an increase with an early morning departure on the 175. BHX now showing 4 x 175's in the morning.

Aberdeen has two of the four flights operated by the BHX based aircraft.

Last Dusseldorf inbound 19.05 which is odd.

Jersey departures 07.00, 13.45 and 14.20 which seems a strange spacing of flights.

Seems to be at least 13 based but the schedule is far from complete.

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Old 5th Jan 2017, 18:07
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Old 6th Jan 2017, 10:34
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I would suggest that, as usual, there are lies, darned lies - and statistics!

Not a bad accolade to get anyway - all good for the PR / spin machine.
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Old 6th Jan 2017, 12:30
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TBH I'm quite surprised considering that Flybe, with their frequent cancellations and delays, is one of their main operators!
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Old 6th Jan 2017, 18:45
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TBH I'm quite surprised considering that Flybe, with their frequent cancellations and delays, is one of their main operators!
HT, on the basis that you posted the following yesterday...

Here we go yet again! Posters making statements without knowing any FACTS at all. It really is getting bad on PPRuNe and the moderators should put a stop to it!
...would you care to post your facts in support of this claim re Flybe.

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Old 6th Jan 2017, 19:14
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Certainly. Of my last 5 flights with Flybe, 4 were delayed, from 30 minutes to just over 2 hours. Quite a high average for 1 passenger, hence my post. Not only that, but flying often from DUS (on Eurowings - having given up with Flybe) I like to keep an eye on the Flybe flights and again have (in the past 3 months) noticed hefty delays. Of course, I might just be the airline's jinx!

Btw, I didn't post a FACT! I expressly stated that I was surprised. And I base that "surprise" on my personal experience flying with the airline.

Nor was I commenting on an aircraft accident on which there were no confirmed details about at the time of my post.

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Old 6th Jan 2017, 20:53
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Of all the destinatinations I fly to I look forward to DUS with Flybe, in my experience its 99% on time or early. Trouble is that is subjective and I cannot support that with data or advise whether this is better or not than other airlines, and I, like others, have flown with many.

Rather, the posts in this thread are usually of a calibre that make them valuable in terms of making better informed choices. Therefore it remains difficult to understand how one of brums biggest operators did not manage to impair their punctuality if these 4 flights are typical of its performance.

I have not used eurowings on this route yet, perhaps I will. Or perhaps I will check the UK CAA and deutsche LBA data first.
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Old 6th Jan 2017, 22:21
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Flybe/AA/Monarch/BMIR

American Airlines have flown the nest with the last flight departing earlier. Inbound loads remained good right until the end and outbound was not too bad until today. Looks a pretty straightforward case of high fares, few pax, low fares and lots of pax and the net result insufficient yield.

I assume BHX will be in the fray eventually for Norwegian to NYC, along with Belfast, Bristol etc.

Only Delta left out of the big 3 to try their hand and thus far, nearly but not quite. However Jetblue will be worth watching if they do take the 321 NEO LR.

Monarch/Flybe - part of the most punctual airport article was some good reading for Monarch and they probably helped BHX having a spare aircraft and nil cancellations.

Flybe is a difficult one as they seem to have phases with the Dash 8 where they have a run of issues but cancellations seem to have reduced. The Flybe website has a 3 month check for flight status and anyone with time on their hands can go back through it.

One thing that has disappointed me is the use of the 175 on certain routes. Dussledorf is a prime example with Eurowings adding shiney new A320's and Flybe's response is to make the BHX all prop yet you check fleet wide and there are 175's on ridiculous routes and that includes BHX-GLA and EDI although they do become all prop next summer. However the 175's are still not showing next summer on the likes of DUS or AMS, just more Dash 8's.

BMIR - Possible more to come other than Graz.

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Old 6th Jan 2017, 22:46
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darkbarly, yes it is subjective and it can depend on a number of factors. I used to fly the DUS route both with BEE and EWG (in their various guises over the years). After having a series of poor experiences with lengthy delays on BEE I switched to using EWG exclusively (on this route). Of course EWG's time keeping is not 100% but I certainly and genuinely perceive it to be on average (for me) better than BEE. I'm not anti BEE or anything like that. It's just the way things evolved on my regular travels between DUS and BHX (average of 24 rotations per annum).
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Old 7th Jan 2017, 09:30
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Being reported elsewhere two new routes ex BHX Gothenburg and Nuremburg both 6x week with BMI regional from April 2017. More great news
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Old 7th Jan 2017, 10:30
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American Airlines have flown the nest with the last flight departing earlier
At least Jet2 are doing their Christmas shopping trips from BHX for a shade under 400 return.
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Old 7th Jan 2017, 11:41
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Graz, Gothenburg and Nuremburg ex BHX is now in the BMIR website drop down menu hopefully flight numbers and timetable will follow shortly.
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Old 7th Jan 2017, 16:51
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To OltonPete

Thanks for your as usual informative post

With reference to the chances of another American airline starting services from BHX they are essentially nil for the foreseeable future.

United may! I hope: Consider increasing their services from the airport but as said a multitude of times - its down the motorway(s) (very slowly) to LHR or up the M6 again quite slowly to MAN.

I hope for more "Niche" services from Brum aka MAN to American tourist Cities in the future (I would use SFO for example) so AA leave the facility for the 3rd time. (Yes I was a regular to ORD with them.)

Its time to be realistic about growth prospects. Eastern Europe obviously holds promise as does India by the looks of things to come.

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Old 7th Jan 2017, 20:44
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Does anybody have any info on what is going on with the remedial work in the area in front of the 33 glideslope? Everytime I look at it the more I think that it looks like a flooded Flanders battlefield. I haven'r seen any work taking place but the puddles just seem to get bigger. Why is the runway classified as wet when it hasn't rained for days? Answers on a postcard please to stand 74.
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Old 7th Jan 2017, 22:07
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I have a visit to BHX ATC on Sunday am so I will ask about the work to restore the Cat 3
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Old 7th Jan 2017, 22:26
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Restoration to Cat 1 would be a start. It is incredulous that the airport would plan these works in the winter.
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Old 7th Jan 2017, 22:30
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USA/BMI Regional

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I think you have hit the nail on the head - with multiple daily departures to a huge range of US gateways from LHR and increasingly MAN I don't see any new US services front BHX for the foreseeable future, they just don't seem to work in terms of high yield front end traffic and cannot compete in terms of frequency. The unfortunate withdraw of AA and lack of response from UA will hardly have other airlines rushing in to start US flights from BHX.

As for Norwegian, perhaps we're in with a chance as they're already brand aware in the Midlands but I should imagine they're pushing hard for a deal and BHX are not known for that - I can see BRS getting a flight over BHX if this is the case.

I think we have to be thankful UA still operate and that we also have excellent one stop connections to many US cities with Aer Lingua and Icelandair.

India - is there something new in the pipeline?

And what's happened to China, it's all gone very quiet after so much high profile PR in 2016 about the importance of getting a BHX - China route....

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I don't see anything on the BMI Regional website for any of these destinations? The only flight bookable is Brussels (SN codeshare).....am I missing something?
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Old 8th Jan 2017, 02:56
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Originally Posted by darkbarly View Post
HT, on the basis that you posted the following yesterday...



...would you care to post your facts in support of this claim re Flybe.

Thanks.
WTF....its a rumours forum....fecks sake ....are up that stupid, u didn't read the name of the site u were signing up to?
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Old 8th Jan 2017, 09:14
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India - is there something new in the pipeline?

I don't see anything on the BMI Regional website for any of these destinations? The only flight bookable is Brussels (SN codeshare).....am I missing something?

Air India are due to announce extra services, with some going on to Toronto

The three new destinations are showing on the British Midland Regional timetable search
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