BIRMINGHAM - 6

[Centre cities]

SAS

As OP states Stockholm only bookable until Christmas direct and then via Copenhagen until March when you can book direct Stockholm to Birmingham but not the other way, no connections showing that way either.

Work in progress or the jury is out. The flights for this summer appeared relativity late.

Centre cities

[nigel osborne]

Skipness one echo

Attach all the details on the 787 required, scroll down to "Take off performance" clearly shown as 9,225 ft at sea level assume this is max weight.


No doubt you won't be happy with this link either

Boeing 787 Dreamliner : Analysis


Nigel

[Skipness One Echo]

Why in the name of God would you be at max weight going to Delhi Nigel? Those figures are taken at the extremes of the performance envelope!

[nigel osborne]

Skipness one echo,

you asked for the take off performance I passed them to you.

Your free to speculate and suppose time will tell.

Best wishes

Nigel

[OltonPete]

March Route Analysis - International

Source: CAA for passenger figures, BHX blog and libhomeradar for movements plus various seat-plan sites for load factors.

Difficult month to assess and calculate load factors due some missing data on libhomeradar, weather cancellations and strike affected fligfhts. I would say load factors in reality were probbaly higher due to cancellations and business pax take-up and blocking of middle seats. Some routes show nil pax, as these operated in 2012 but not 2013.

BRUSSELS........9900......43pax......49%

LARNACA...... 3119.....173 pax...81%

Copenhagen..... 7036.....80 pax.....68%

Chambery..... 367.......37 pax....47%?

GRENOBLE.. 3785......126..........

Lyon.....0

MONTPELLIER ......0

NICE................... 404........51 pax

PARIS (CDG)... 29993......94......80%

BERLIN (TEGEL)...3688....97 pax...69%

DUSSELDORF...14536....46 pax....54%

FRANKFURT ...22471.....99 pax...70%

Hamburg.....2853.....59 pax..69%

Munich.......16128.... 87 pax.....65%

STUTTGART......1604...31 pax.....40%

GIBRALTAR......1062....132 pax...76%

BUDAPEST...........0

Cork.....6638 .....54 pax....74%

DUBLIN.........49252.....120 pax..69%

KNOCK..........2550.....41 pax.....60%

SHANNON.....2775.....45 pax.....65%

WATERFORD..1760....49 pax....63%

BERGAMO.......3711.....143 pax...74%

MILAN (MXP).....2617.....52 pax...60%

ROME (FCO)......4817....134 pax..74%

TRIESTE ............ 216 ....108 pax...57%

VENICE..............3018.....116 pax..58%

KAUNAS............. 323......162 pax....85%

MALTA...............3002......167 pax...88%

AMSTERDAM....39421...94 pax....83%

ISLAMABAD.....11037....307 pax...80%

BYDGOSZCZ......4388...169 pax...89%

GDANSK................. 0

KATOWICE..........2833....157 pax...83%

KRAKOW,............2854.....158 pax..84%

RZESZOW...........3657.....141 pax....75%

FARO.....................7700....175 pax...86%

LISBON..................... 0

FUNCHAL..............2801....156 pax...89%

BRATISLAVA.........2982.....166 pax...86%

ALICANTE............13906.....183 pax...91%

ALMERIA......................0

BARCELONA.........5702......158 pax...84%

GIRONA..................... 0

IBIZA.......................191.......96 pax...51%

MAHON......................0

MALAGA.............13379.....176 pax...87%

MURCIA .................263.....132 pax...70%

PALMA .................3360.....168 pax....88%

REUS.......................218....109 pax...58%

ARRECIFE.............7572....189 pax...95%

FUERTEVENTURA..3608...180 pax...91%

LAS PALMAS..........3450.....173 pax..81%

TENERIFE (TFS).....13417.....186 pax..90%

GOTEBORG..................0

STOCKHOLM (ARN)..2971...83 pax 70% approx

GENEVA........11616....142 pax....89%

ZURICH........9380......76 pax....70%

DALAMAN...................... 0

ISTANBUL.....7018.....113 pax....71%

Ashkhabad....5210.....145 pax........80%

DUBAI..........45282.....365 pax.......85%

NEW YORK (EWR)..7687.....142 pax....84%

Pete

[Fairdealfrank]

AI to BHX (or MAN)

Never going to happen!

[firstforfirstchoice]

TOM

Hi all,

Does anyone know what type of Thomsonfly B767 will be based at BHX for this Summer 2013?? I know over the winter it has been the ex First Choice ones, but the last couple of weeks it has been the original Thomson aircraft with more seats.

[OltonPete]

Orlando

Thomas Cook

Flight only now showing TCX162 11/4/14 only returning two weeks later.

Is it possible that a high season 2014 schedule?

Glasgow's Orlando's don't seem to operate in August after the Scottish school Holidays finish or does the aircraft go to Manchester or Gatwick?

Fairdealfrank

Very confident reply especially when discussing one of the most erratic airlines in the world.

Pete

[LAX_LHR]

Flight only now showing TCX162 11/4/14 only returning two weeks later.

Is it possible that a high season 2014 schedule?

I was told the flight was cancelled, but then again, not many seems to know what this flight is actually about?

Glasgow's Orlando's don't seem to operate in August after the Scottish school Holidays finish or does the aircraft go to Manchester or Gatwick?

I think it goes to Manchester. The long haul schedule in 2014 from there seems rather bulky compared to past years.

[Fairdealfrank]

Quote: "Fairdealfrank

Very confident reply especially when discussing one of the most erratic airlines in the world.

Pete"

Trust me, Pete!

[justplanecrazy84]

Do you know where they are going?

[groundhogbhx]

DXB vs DEL

Nigel, the EK usually takes around the 55 tonne mark for DXB, if the weather is bad in DXB they can take up to 80 tonnes and still hit MZFW without much trouble. PIA regularly take 65 tonnes to ISB with no problem. So why would a 777 have problems going to DEL from BHX? I seem to remember that they have done exactly that when the weather in ATQ was below limits.

[Daza]

Air India at Birmingham

Looks like a more definite plan is in place!
Air India will expand aggressively this year : Rohit Nandan - Livemint
Daza

[OltonPete]

AI/FR/BE

Ryanair

They have added a third weekly Perpignan on a Thursday for July and August, which fills a vacant slot - They always seem to have spare slots on a Thursday each summer at BHX.

Flybe The March Waterford average is better as I actually used 18 flights rather 17 - impressive figures even if Easter contributed.

Air India

I assume no change of stance Fairdealfrank? To be fair I am in the "see it then I will believe it" camp with AI & QR for that matter but plenty of hot air.

Pete

[mart901]

I flew BHX-WAT and back a week before Easter and there was about 50 pax outbound and around 70 returning.Really good to see, although I suspect the fact BHX is until next month the only route out of WAT is somewhat benefiting BE.

[GayFriendly]

AI

To be fair I am in the "see it then I will believe it" camp with AI & QR for that matter but plenty of hot air

Right with you OP - AI talk so much hot air am amazed they don't fly balloons instead of aircraft. To be fair though they seemed quite happy at BHX last time round, so could this indeed be a case of third time lucky for AI @ BHX? Let's hope that the AI chairman who so boldy states that AI will fly to BHX in the article (in the next 3-5 months!?) hasn't been taking PR lessons from the chairman of QR......

[Fairdealfrank]

Quote: "Air India at Birmingham
Looks like a more definite plan is in place!
Air India will expand aggressively this year : Rohit Nandan - Livemint
Daza "

Still not convinced, AI is scint and reliant on endless govt bail outs (not unlike some southern Europe countries). How long can that go on?

Regretably, AI is not the "five star" carrier of the 1950s/1960s and 1970s, and needs to get back to that. A couple of years ago the star alliance refused it admission, must have been reasons for this?

[hillwalker2004]

Agree with others but just went on the Air India website and saw this...

AirIndia - Birmingham Airport#

Is this a hangover from many years ago (!) or a sign of intent?

[bhx bod]

AI @ BHX

As far as the AI website is concerned who knows how up to date it is.
What I would like to know is in the interview it was suggested services could start in 3-5 months.Is that services will be announced in 3-5 months or actually flying in that time.There is a world of difference between the 2.
I could be mistaken but I thought generally speaking longhaul services are announced a good 6-12 months ahead of any start date.This I would have thought would be better as far as the runway is concerned,if that is relevant.
It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few months,especially if MAN get their Jet flights.Over doing capacity never did anyone any good!!

[spentaylor]

AI Website

This statement on their Birmingham Airport page would seem to suggest it has not been updated from last time around:

"For passenger traveling on AI i.e. ATQ-BHX-YYZ then pax are held in transit lounge, No facilities as only a 1 hour stop."

Time will tell I guess