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Old 31st Jul 2014, 10:26
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"The Monarch press release can dress it up as much as they like but it just about wipes out all the Thomas Cook increase"


As ever with BHX, one positive step forward by one airline followed immediately by one step back by another.....what are the (at present) four dropped ZB routes? I think we can forget any new routes from ZB for the foreseeable future.
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Old 31st Jul 2014, 10:57
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Monarch 2015

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That is the situation at the present and it is only the first release but unfortunately the schedule fits 8 based quite comfortably.

The routes not bookable are Hurghada after mid May, Split, Ibiza and Almeria.

I have might have been a bit hasty with the doom and gloom especially the incredibly reduced May and June schedule but April is amazing and well up on this year.

This year April required between 5 and 6 aircraft and at present April 15 requires 7-8 on Friday to Monday and 5-6 on Tuesday to Thursday.

Realistically the April schedule for the Friday - Monday period is going to require at least seven aircraft unless there are cuts.

I believe May & June 2015 is not finalised, I believe night flights will be added to high season and Ibiza should return.

Almeria is a bit of a shock as it was increased this summer to three flights to cater for Thomson but their timetable is showing a Thomson aircraft for 2015.

I think the initial shock is due to the change from previous years where the vast majority of the schedule at BHX was released in version 1 and you could see April was 5-6 aircraft, May 7-8 and late May to September 9 aircraft.

2015 seems different but as CC has said new broom etc

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Old 31st Jul 2014, 11:12
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Monarch 2015

And still nothing on sale at all from EMA. If they pull out from there that will be a drop from 11 to just 8 aircraft in the entire "Midlands" region. I wonder now though if they are planning on moving an a/c to East Midlands and consequently haven't completed their schedules for EMA yet??
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Old 31st Jul 2014, 15:35
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And still nothing on sale at all from EMA.
To Be brutally honest that would be music to many a BHX posters ears.
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Old 31st Jul 2014, 18:30
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Security Queues

Arrived from AMS today, around 1630, KLM i.e. international pier. It took an exact 28mins to get from the end of the border control queue to first spot. Other pax and I were not entirely impressed that there where only 4-6 desks open at any time, in fact two desks closed during the period I was waiting.

When I left, some pax were queuing up the stairs.
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Old 31st Jul 2014, 19:30
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Monarch/easyjet/Security

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It did cross my mind one way or other - expansion or base-closure. The two aircraft this winter are down to 15 flights at times with Malta suspended for five weeks, Malaga three times a week and seat-maps showing as 320's again.

insuindi - Were the e-gates working for the lucky ones? I also notice that the PIA landed 15 minutes before you which usually doesn't help especially if the flight was full as it was Eid this week and it usually picks up after a quiet month.

Other arrivals show Munich and a couple of Thomson's but not a lot else other than FR & BE and they wouldn't affect where you were so I suppose a bit disappointing.

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Some minor winter changes - Geneva now starts 6 December rather than 13th but after the 6th the next flight is the 13th but all three operate rather than just the two. Also that day Grenoble restarts but on the A320 rather than A319. All subject to change of course but every little bit helps.

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Old 31st Jul 2014, 19:59
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Monarch-This was one of there press releases last November

2013 News - Flights - MONARCH AIRLINES AND MAG ANNOUNCE GROWTH DEAL


14 11 2013


Monarch, the leading scheduled leisure airline, and Manchester Airports Group (MAG), the UK’s largest regional airport operator, have today announced commercial agreements that will help to underpin Monarch’s plan for growth at Manchester and East Midlands Airports.

The commitments are for three years at Manchester Airport and five years at East Midlands Airport; both deals can be extended further.

I know its on t Birmingham thread but I hope this answers the questions being asked
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Old 31st Jul 2014, 23:18
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Mon/ZB

A message from nearly 12 months ago in the aviation industry means nothing.

Having said that I am sure that Monarch schedules will be released from Leeds and EMA in due course.

As it appears the Monarch base is down one aircraft for the June/October period but it is still a substantial offering although disappointing. Perhaps it is 8 321 as opposed to the 7 this year. Time will tell.

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Old 1st Aug 2014, 07:47
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Monarch S15

I'm sure that there will still be at least one A320 based for S15 to operate the Gibraltar and smaller Greek Airport routes, so I don't think 8 x A321s is possible!
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Old 5th Aug 2014, 12:13
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After some rumours circulating recently about Air India, the press release is out confirming daily services from the start of the winter schedule:

Air India Commits to Daily Services - Birmingham Airport
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Old 5th Aug 2014, 12:29
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Hopefully just a matter of semantics, but interesting to note in the press release that the Air India guy says that "once we have taken the delivery of our 18th Dreamliner aircraft in November, we hope to launch the daily operation from Birmingham Airport" which the BHX CEO seems to take as a commitment to launch daily in November, though it isn't quite saying that. As ever time will tell.....
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Old 5th Aug 2014, 13:15
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You can 'interpret' the statement however you please but the fact of the matter is load factors on the route have been exceptional and this latest press release is nothing short of good news for Birmingham
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Old 5th Aug 2014, 14:04
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Hopefully just a matter of semantics, but interesting to note in the press release that the Air India guy says that "once we have taken the delivery of our 18th Dreamliner aircraft in November, we hope to launch the daily operation from Birmingham Airport" which the BHX CEO seems to take as a commitment to launch daily in November, though it isn't quite saying that. As ever time will tell.....
The "hope" is linked to the "once" - insofar as the one (daily service) is subject to the other (Boeing delivering on time). The service "will" go daily "when" the 18th 787 is delivered which is expected to be in time for a November upgrade.

As a Mancunian, I don't believe there are many straws for you to clutch on this occasion.
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Old 5th Aug 2014, 14:35
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Not clutching at any straws my paranoid little friend - if BHX can support a daily Air India service then the very best of luck to them. The demographics are such that BHX is probably a better bet for Air India than MAN (maybe MAN will be added too in the future?). It just seemed like a strange way for the Air India guy to express it. If a daily service will definitely start in November then why not just say so? I assume they won't be waiting until the 18th 787's wheels are on Indian soil, then announcing the route to start the day after!
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Old 5th Aug 2014, 16:03
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Curiouspax.

I would say it may have been that not all the extended contracts had been signed by the date of the year anniversary where he spoke.

They did say when it started if it did well they would go daily and certainly apart from low season loads factors have been very good.

They did also say at its start they would consider another destination once/if Amritsar/Delhi went daily, although not sure where that would likely be ?

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Old 5th Aug 2014, 16:38
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Not clutching at any straws my paranoid little friend
Apologies, I was making an oblique reference to others who seem to believe that Manchester has a God given right to pretty well all long haul outside of London.

Absolutely agree that the demographics make BHX the obvious choice for AI, ahead of MAN. The terminology used was somewhat strange but often Indian english can be somewhat more convoluted than the english we use here in UK (doesn't make it wrong, just different - a la American english vs. english")
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Old 5th Aug 2014, 17:51
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Air India

Great news!! I remember people saying the route would never happen and that Air India would never come to Birmingham....great success story
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Old 5th Aug 2014, 18:05
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Air India

Air India and caution are a few words that are suited to the same sentance.

Last night you couldn't even book the route weekly let alone daily for next summer on their website.

I do hope they mean the 18 aircraft to be delivered and not the 18th to be operational as VT-ANI has not flown since 22 April 2014

VT-ANS will be number 18 and parts are arriving per the all things 787 Bl*g and ANR is waiting for its first flight and ANQ went into service on 1/8/14.

Another site claimed all this years 787's have been financed and really if that is true then November is achievable but it is not bookable.

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Old 5th Aug 2014, 22:22
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Great news!! I remember people saying the route would never happen and that Air India would never come to Birmingham....great success story
Yes, yes, that was me.....was made to eat my hat over this (it tasted good).

Pleased to be proven wrong of course, and hope that the daily frequency materialises.
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Old 6th Aug 2014, 06:54
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Great news!! I remember people saying the route would never happen and that Air India would never come to Birmingham....great success story

I don't think it was the route in question but the the string of 'fly by night' operators that caused the problem. Mint airways comes to mind.
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