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Old 17th Jul 2014, 18:27
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Snowplough in front of Eurojet hangar doors again?
I hope the soon to be new occupier is ready for the dated tactics used by BHX.
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Old 18th Jul 2014, 01:22
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Snowplough in front of Eurojet hangar doors again?
Putting the snowplough in front of the hangar doors after the horse has bolted?
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Old 18th Jul 2014, 17:49
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Hanger

I think that the powers that be have been well aware of the situation with the hanger for some time and that all is in hand.

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Old 18th Jul 2014, 23:18
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June Route Analysis (international)

Monthly passenger figures courtesy of the CAA (provisonal)

Some gaps due to IT figures mixed in with schedule figures I believe on Arrecife, Fuerteventura, Tenerife and Hanover is just missing.

Again thanks to a local SBS log for the daily movements making my life easy with working out the average pax per flight. Load factors are estimated and mainly based on maximum economy pax which probably means some are higher if the middle seat is closed off for business pax.

Although the Air India is a bit of a shock and other long-haul flights down, the rest load factor wise are not too bad. EK at 73% up from 72% in May and PIA was over 70% and even TK managed over 80%.

Some very high load factors on schedules such as CDG, FRA and CPH.

Brussels........10609 (8731)..... 46 per flight..58% load factor
Dubrovnik.......4312 (3196).....127 pax.......76%
Split..............3288 (2748)......126 pax......73%
Larnaca..........7438 (7538).....173 pax.......81%
Paphos.......... 2758 (4354).....162 pax.......76%
Copenhagen... 8686(6710).......94 pax........81%
Avignon...........502 (539)........63 pax........80%
Bergerac.........506 (534).........63 pax.......72%
Bordeaux........2257 (1758).......63 pax...... 74%
Brest..............378 (479).........47 pax........61%
La Rochelle......439 (577).........55 pax........62%
Lyons............3845 (3037).......74 pax........84%
Montepellier.......nil (192)......................
Nice...............5700 (6678)......130 pax.......70%
Paris CDG......31915 (31046)....99 pax.........84%
Perpignan.........486 (2601).....61 pax..........78%
Toulouse.........2850 (960)......55 pax..........68%
Berlin TXL.......3432 (4845)......95 pax.........69%
Cologne..........2481 (nil).........43 pax.........54%
Dusseldorf.....17242 (16200)....56 pax.........63%
Frankfurt.......25177 (24345)..114 pax.........77%
Hamburg.........2837 (2977).....57 pax..........64%
Hanover........figures not provided
Munich..........14442 (13766)...92 pax.........76%
Stuttgart........5975 (3648).....59 pax..........67%
Gibraltar..........3799 (3131)....146pax.........84%
Cork...............5719 (6115)......48 pax.........66%
Knock.............2584 (2410).....43 pax.........55%
Dublin............49115 (44887)..123 pax.........82%
Shannon..........3973 (2523).....33 pax.........66%
Waterford........2153 (1600).....60 pax.........77%
Bergamo............nil (3698)
Florence..........3718 (nil)........72 pax.........81%
Milan MXP........8128 (4781).....68 pax.........77%
Rome FCO........9185 (9113)...177 pax.........84%
Trieste...............nil (2266)
Venice.............5432 (5196)...160 pax.......75%
Malta..............3268 (2689)...182 pax........96%
Amsterdam.....43208 (39496)..88 pax.........67%
Faro.............19903 (18488)..181 pax.........87%
Oporto...........2232 (nil).........66 pax.........75%
Funchel..........2611 (2131)...145 pax.........76%
Alicante........31427 (26911).,.163pax.........91%
Almeria...........3838 (2843)...148 pax.........78%
Barcelona......17079 (15965)..182 pax.........82%
Girona...............nil (1527)
Ibiza.............11437 (13052)...143 pax.......76%
Mahon...........5410 (5563)......159 pax......78%
Malaga.........24626 (27529)...187 pax........92%
Murcia...........5271 (5165)....165 pax.........87%
Palma...........24228 (22280)...159 pax........90%
Reus.............2384 (3470)....149 pax....... 79%
Arrecife........13500 (10663) incorrect split shown between schedule & IT
Fuerteventura 7697 incorrect split shown between schedule & IT
Las Palmas.....6905 (7568)...161 pax.........79%
Tenerife.......17541(14820) incorrect split shown between schedule & IT
Gothenburg....1516 (1286).....32 pax.........64%
Arlanda.........2413 (2066).....101pax.........85%
Reykjavik.........71 (o)..........36 pax........40%
Zurich..........9188 (8956).....77 pax.........76%
Bodrum.........3855 (3645)...154 pax.........74%
Dalaman........8120(9816)..135 pax.........65%
Istanbul......10609 (10857)..121 pax.........81%
Kaunas.........3194 (3124)...177 pax.........94%
Bydgoscz......4257 (4409)...177 pax.........94%
Gdansk........2762 (2878).....173 pax.........91%
Katowice.....3238 (3812)....180 pax.........95%
Krakow........3233 (2814)...180 pax..........95%
Bratislava....4140 (4450).....173 pax.........91%
Hurghada......1259 (0).........157 pax.........74%
Sharm.........4638 (4889).....186 pax.........87%
Ashkhabad....3276 (3058)...126 pax..........68%
Dubai.........35203 (37589)..293 pax.........73%
Delhi...........2335 (nil)
Amritsar.......2135 (nil).......131 pax..........51%
Islamabad....5837 (8232).....243 pax.........71%
Toronto.......1964 (1806).....246 pax.....90%
Newark........8778 (9389)....146 pax.........87%

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Old 18th Jul 2014, 23:59
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in all honesty I dont think anyone is surprised by the early Air India figures....
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Old 19th Jul 2014, 00:22
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33 pax average per flight to Shannon doesn't sound right - it's operated by a mix of ATR72 and 42 compared to mostly just 42's last year
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Old 19th Jul 2014, 01:34
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I had no idea BHX-DUB was the busiest route! I'd be interested to know what % of those pax continue across the Atlantic
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Old 19th Jul 2014, 07:40
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I think dublin is busiest route


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Old 19th Jul 2014, 09:48
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I had no idea BHX-DUB was the busiest route! I'd be interested to know what % of those pax continue across the Atlantic
I would guess a comparatively small percentage, as most flights won't connect with transatlantic departures, and of course Ryanair don't interline with anyone.

Most UK/Ireland/UK is leisure point to point business - VFR passengers in particular.
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Old 19th Jul 2014, 11:18
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June International route analysis

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Don't really know what to say other than they are provisional.

The service is double daily therefore 120 movements. The SBS log I use doesn't show any inbound cancellations although there could be outbound ones but not more than one or two.

Therefore the average pax figure is correct based on the CAA figures and the SBS log. However I have made a bit of howler with the load factor as it is 60% and not 66%.

The service is all ATR42 except for the Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday evening. However an ATR72 operated some mornings making the total ATR72 rotations 38 and ATR42 82. Total seats available 6672.

ATNotts

I was looking to go to New York in April and the BHX-SNN-JFK was consistantly coming out as one the cheapest routings unfortunately I was living in cloud-cuckoo land and basing my memories on 2012 prices and missed the reasonable fares expecting something better to come along - I ended up in Florence on flybe .

Ironically Ryanair slashed capacity on BHX-DUB in June with Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday halved so it could have been a lot better.

Here are the 2013 annual figures

Dublin 560059
Dubai 499573
Amsterdam 459701
Paris CDG 365697

July Figures

Unusual year with Thomas Cook and Thomson adding virtually nothing to high-season. The 788 will add a few more seats to long-haul but other than that only Monarch with their night flights, Balkan Holidays, the flybe night-flights and extra mid-week French routes add to capacity although the latter really only replace business frequncies.

Turkish have the 321 operating today (and yesterday) and Aegean Athens tonight is upgraded to the 321 but other than that very little. The million pax figure should be easily passed based on flybe's increase over 2013 and Monarch operating 7 A321's compared to 4 last year.

Air India

The only surprise in respect of June was how low it was - it was always going to struggle (start of the monsoon season). Very noticeable how close AI113 was to MH17 on Thursday I bet that shook the crew up when they found out.

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Old 19th Jul 2014, 14:46
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June Domestic route analysis

CAA for the passenger figures, 2013 in brackets and sectors from an SBS log

Aberdeen........11572 (9171).......54 per flight......67%
Belfast City....22326 (23484)......64 per flight......79%
Belfast Int.....14893 (11938).....122 per flight......78%
Londonderry......4448 (4492)......124 per flight......65%
Edinburgh.......24717 (24544)..... 66 per flight......81%
Glasgow.........21149 (17939)......59 per flight......75%
Inverness........3608 (3349).......60 per flight......75%
Isle of Man......4606 (4006).......59 per flight......76&
Newquay..........3361 (nil)........56 per flight......72% - just for Cornishsimon
Newcastle.........671 (743)........08 per flight......50%
Guernsey.........1850 (3221)
Jersey...........5836 (4695).......57 per plight......72%

These really are quite significant in flybe's case with literally 1000's of seats taken out of the BHD, EDI, GLA and IOM markets but what has happened in some instances - pax have gone up.

The basic fare on these routes has not gone down but unfortunately even I have not had the time to monitor the other fares. Therefore I have no idea if some yield has been sacrificed to get bums on seats.

I wonder how close Newquay came to getting a winter run? It was loaded in at one point but without fares before it was removed.

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Old 19th Jul 2014, 16:12
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Cork figures strange up over 5000 pax? only 619 last year?
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Old 19th Jul 2014, 17:04
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Typo - have amended it to 6115 so it was actually down.

A one point it was flying with consistent growth with a third flight added some days in the past. However double Shannon seems to be the new flavour of the month or season.

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Old 19th Jul 2014, 20:54
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72% for first season BHX-NQY is brilliant in my opinion, iv no doubt this route will return for summer 15 after seeing this. Prices for the remainder of the run remain high.

I think it might of been kept for winter if LGW-NQY hadn't been returning to three daily until January 15. As NQY has one based Q which will operate LGW x3 and MAN x1 doesn't leave any scope for the single based aircraft to operate it.


Thanks for the numbers Pete

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Old 19th Jul 2014, 22:38
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I think the original GLA-NQY load was higher than that it it ultimately got pulled. Winter is a whole different ball game to summer also
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Old 20th Jul 2014, 01:54
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Waterford figures seem good. Any idea if 4 weekly is still on the cards for the winter season? It seems to drop down to 3 per week at the end of October.
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Old 20th Jul 2014, 08:35
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I agree, BHX-WAT doing really well, I think I gets a certain percentage of people who head onto the train at BHX for London with the lack of LTN/SEN. Still seems to be 3x weekly, hope that won't affect it.
Sadly MAN-WAT appears to be ending in Oct, although originally dates didn't go past Sept, it may be under review but looks like the end, for winter anyway.
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Old 20th Jul 2014, 09:16
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Wasn't GLA-NQY operated by Logan for flybe on the S340 ? Rather than the Q ? So 34 seats v 78 ?

I agree however that GLA-NQY is missing from the NQY schedules and also EDI being just once a week could be increased.


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Old 21st Jul 2014, 00:55
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 Perhaps not quite as desperate at BHX yet and we expect a 3rd EK service next year.
 Also we have the first China Southern charter in a few weeks which will hopefully be expanded, and Air Transat are adding more A330 flight to Toronto next year.
 However agree over all we often suffer being too close to London and lesser extent Manchester,
 Honey Bunny, feel free to take swipes at BHX if that what floats your boat however your attack on the city itself is ludicrous.This is supposed to be an aviation forum.
 If you know your economics Birmingham is exporting more goods to China than any other city in the UK outside London,and has one of the fastest growing economies.Jaguar Landrover is probably one of the most successful companies in terms of creating new jobs and exports in the UK..As is Cadburys.
 I could go on.. but, apologize as its an aviation forum, but thought Id defend my city after such comments !

 Nigel

Sorry to go back a few pages but I'd like to respond to Mr Osborne.I think you'd better start using the name George as you seem well versed on the UK's economics!!
Firstly you agree at my 'swipe' at bhx being piggy in the middle!

Second, yes correct it's an aviation forum well spotted.You were the one spouting the cities industrial success.

Thirdly were did I attack Birmingham? To expand on what I meant by my comment, that the area in general has been all to often overlooked in favour of areas North and South.

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Old 21st Jul 2014, 16:46
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China Southern / Runway Official Opening

Just a reminder BHX's first China Southern flight to Beijing is tommorow (22nd) as is the official runway extention opening.
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