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Utter and complete chaos this morning at SXF as the union called security personnel out on a warning strike this morning (5-8.45am).
My understanding is that the security staff is working on behalf of the Federal Police and the matter is in fact not in the hands of the airport operator. Still, quite messy and not helping the abysmal reputation of the place.
Edited: from online sources
It is not a super complex job but €15-18 (my guess from the above) / hour seems awfully low.
My understanding is that the security staff is working on behalf of the Federal Police and the matter is in fact not in the hands of the airport operator. Still, quite messy and not helping the abysmal reputation of the place.
Edited: from online sources
The union wants hourly pay for all workers conducting security checks to rise to 20 euros ($22.81). Employer association BDLS says this could amount to a 30 percent increase in some cases.
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And they've gone and built the satellite building in such a position so as to lose use of one of the 3 decent boarding bridges. Never mind I suppose most the customer airlines now want boarding via forward and aft stairs, even though passengers may have to queue in the rain and snow.
new "terminal"
- Very limited seating - and exactly four (!) chairs per gate once you've cleared the boarding check. No provision for priority boarding lane.
- Zero lift access - I actually helped a woman with a small kid down the stairs with a stroller. How is this even legal in this day and age ? I'm sure there are provisions for handicapped persons but still...
- Worst IMHO was the long (I estimate 3-400m) walk on the tarmac to the plane under pouring rain. And I thought they actually built this to make boarding easier.
- The information screen were non working (ie did not know what gate was for which fly...). Surely a punctual issue but again not reflecting well on the facility.
- No provision for police / pass control - this can only work as a Schengen (as long as it last...) or internal flights.
- Indeed "sacrifies" one of the air bridges
- Seems to be very much an Easyjet exclusive (but I might be mistaken). Edited: Ryanair seems to also use the facility.
- No idea why the used dual numbering of the gates (3x/4x) - anyone ?
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Another visit this morning.
Apparently, SXF has "cordoned off" (with pretty impressive barbwires !) the 60+ gates. No idea if they want to transform into a detention centre (to be honest not much work required (IMHO) but it did not help the boarding situation this morning, as gates were changed left and right (with 45 minutes notice to actual boarding time, quite the mayhem !).
More seriouslyy it would seem that the rebuild of Pier3a is underway. Let's see if they manage to botch it as well as the others...
Apparently, SXF has "cordoned off" (with pretty impressive barbwires !) the 60+ gates. No idea if they want to transform into a detention centre (to be honest not much work required (IMHO) but it did not help the boarding situation this morning, as gates were changed left and right (with 45 minutes notice to actual boarding time, quite the mayhem !).
More seriouslyy it would seem that the rebuild of Pier3a is underway. Let's see if they manage to botch it as well as the others...
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In case anyone had any doubts about whether BER's design capacity of 27m pax would cope... Berlin's 2 airports saw 34.7m pax in 2018. Furthermore Jan 2019 saw an increase of 400k pax compared to Jan 2018, so on a rolling 12 months it's now 35.1m pax
If BER were to theoretically open tomorrow and SXF continues to handle 12m pax (with which it really struggles) then BER would be running at 85% of design capacity from day 1. The new extension to BER is essential
If BER were to theoretically open tomorrow and SXF continues to handle 12m pax (with which it really struggles) then BER would be running at 85% of design capacity from day 1. The new extension to BER is essential
October 2020 opening has been described as absolutely unrealistic
https://www.morgenpost.de/flughafen-...alistisch.html
Air traffic in Feb 2019 saw an increase of +365,000 pax for Berlin's 2 airports compared to Feb 2018, so rolling 12 months of 35.5m pax while Brandenburg airport has a design capacity of 27m pax
https://www.morgenpost.de/flughafen-...alistisch.html
Air traffic in Feb 2019 saw an increase of +365,000 pax for Berlin's 2 airports compared to Feb 2018, so rolling 12 months of 35.5m pax while Brandenburg airport has a design capacity of 27m pax
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In fact, the building can be used either for Schengen (3x) or non-Schengen (4x) flights. In the latter case, the "routing" is different as you are directed to a passport control checkpoint (and, obviously, the "direct" access route is cordoned off). I wonder if they are actually switching from one the other during the day ?
Well it might actually happen: guinea pigs
https://www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/umla...-flughafen-ber
BER Airport is plagued by more than 5,000 construction defects
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Berlin: Schönefeld Airport to Rename Terminals Ahead of BER Airport’s Opening
More in the article from The Berlin Spectator
Once BER Airport becomes operational in late October of 2020, what is known as Schönefeld Airport today will convert to Terminal 5. But even before, starting on March 31st, the terminal areas within Schönefeld Airport will be renamed.
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At the time AB was also ready to move operations there...
With the latest mayhem I'd say that 2020 looks less and less likely.
With the latest mayhem I'd say that 2020 looks less and less likely.
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Well latest update: https://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Tuev-...e21727113.html
An important milestone, but anything is possible with that project !
An important milestone, but anything is possible with that project !
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52470012
Definitely, definitely, end of October 2020.
Because things are stable, predictable, and reliable just at the moment.
Definitely...
Definitely, definitely, end of October 2020.
Because things are stable, predictable, and reliable just at the moment.
Definitely...
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Well seems Tegel will be closed in June (the 15th according to latest news). Very unlikely to reopen so they better make the new airport work this time...
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Well seems Tegel will be closed in June (the 15th according to latest news). Very unlikely to reopen so they better make the new airport work this time...
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They could but won't... Politically too sensitive.
BER has to be operational in October or else...
Update: it might be that TXL will actually not close on the 15th...The only decision taken is that they could close is it legally (no service obligation). But with air travel slowly resuming all bets are off
BER has to be operational in October or else...
Update: it might be that TXL will actually not close on the 15th...The only decision taken is that they could close is it legally (no service obligation). But with air travel slowly resuming all bets are off
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