LUTON - 7

[gilesdavies]

Ryanair Annual Figures

It also says that at LTN, EasyJet is number one with 47.9% of the seats, followed by WZZ (27.8%) and Ryanair (17.1%). No surprise there!

I am surprised Ryanair only provide 17.1% of the airports annual throughput, as that only equates to about 1.6 million passengers per year, considering they have four aircraft based at the airport and people have mentioned flights operating in from other bases.

Birmingham airport also has four aircraft based there and someone in the Birmingham forum posted this below post giving all the rotations of these four aircraft based at the airport:

MONDAY
FR662 07:30 Dublin
FR2812 12:30 Montpellier
FR3902 13:50 Malta
FR9162 14:20 Barcelona
FR3742 15:40 Fuerteventura
FR1109 15:45 Londonderry
FR1449 16:00 Lanzarote
FR666 16:25 Dublin
FR2153 20:55 Alicante
FR672 22:00 Dublin
FR1254 22:05 Katowice
FR2155 22:50 Murcia
FR2157 23:35 Malaga

FR3901 06:25 Malta
FR3741 06:35 Fuerteventura
FR1448 07:00 Lanzarote
FR663 07:55 Dublin
FR2811 08:10 Montpellier
FR1108 12:55 Londonderry
FR9163 14:45 Barcelona
FR2152 14:50 Alicante
FR1253 16:35 Katowice
FR667 16:50 Dublin
FR2154 17:05 Murcia
FR2156 17:10 Malaga
FR673 22:25 Dublin


TUESDAY
FR662 07:30 Dublin
FR2163 08:35 Palma de Mallorca
FR2157 08:55 Malaga
FR1464 09:40 Milan-Bergamo
FR1999 11:30 Perpignan
FR3712 11:35 Faro
FR749 11:50 Gdansk
FR9162 12:40 Barcelona
FR666 14:45 Dublin
FR2153 14:50 Alicante
FR1122 16:40 Tenerife-South
FR9474 16:45 Barcelona-Girona
FR2712 21:05 Ibiza
FR672 21:40 Dublin
FR735 22:50 Bratislava
FR1213 23:05 Bydgoszcz
FR2155 23:50 Murcia

FR748 06:30 Gdansk
FR1998 06:50 Perpignan
FR1121 07:15 Tenerife-South
FR663 07:55 Dublin
FR2152 08:45 Alicante
FR2162 09:00 Palma de Mallorca
FR2156 09:35 Malaga
FR1463 10:05 Milan-Bergamo
FR9473 11:55 Barcelona-Girona
FR3711 12:00 Faro
FR9163 13:05 Barcelona
FR667 15:10 Dublin
FR2711 15:10 Ibiza
FR734 17:25 Bratislava
FR1212 17:55 Bydgoszcz
FR2154 17:55 Murcia
FR673 22:05 Dublin


WEDNESDAY
FR662 07:30 Dublin
FR2157 08:25 Malaga
FR1083 11:05 Barcelona-Reus
FR1215 13:40 Kaunas
FR2163 14:45 Palma de Mallorca
FR9162 16:00 Barcelona
FR1129 16:05 Gran Canaria
FR666 16:25 Dublin
FR1449 16:40 Lanzarote
FR1466 16:45 Krakow
FR1109 17:20 Londonderry
FR672 22:00 Dublin
FR1254 23:05 Katowice
FR2150 23:15 Alicante
FR1085 23:45 Rzeszow
FR2153 23:50 Alicante

FR1082 06:10 Barcelona-Reus
FR1128 06:45 Gran Canaria
FR1214 07:30 Kaunas
FR1448 07:40 Lanzarote
FR663 07:55 Dublin
FR2156 09:05 Malaga
FR1465 11:30 Krakow
FR1108 14:30 Londonderry
FR2162 15:10 Palma de Mallorca
FR9163 16:25 Barcelona
FR667 16:50 Dublin
FR2151 17:10 Alicante
FR1253 17:35 Katowice
FR1084 17:45 Rzeszow
FR2152 17:45 Alicante
FR673 22:25 Dublin


THURSDAY
FR662 07:30 Dublin
FR2157 09:05 Malaga
FR3712 11:35 Faro
FR9162 12:05 Barcelona
FR2163 12:10 Palma de Mallorca
FR1464 12:40 Milan-Bergamo
FR666 13:30 Dublin
FR2712 13:30 Ibiza
FR1122 16:45 Tenerife-South
FR1097 17:00 Trieste
FR2155 19:05 Murcia
FR2153 20:35 Alicante
FR1109 22:20 Londonderry
FR672 21:40 Dublin
FR1213 23:05 Bydgoszcz
FR735 23:55 Bratislava

FR2162 06:35 Palma de Mallorca
FR1121 07:20 Tenerife-South
FR2711 07:35 Ibiza
FR663 07:55 Dublin
FR2156 09:45 Malaga
FR3711 12:00 Faro
FR1096 12:05 Trieste
FR9163 12:30 Barcelona
FR1463 13:05 Milan-Bergamo
FR2154 13:20 Murcia
FR667 13:55 Dublin
FR2152 14:30 Alicante
FR1212 17:55 Bydgoszcz
FR734 18:30 Bratislava
FR1108 19:30 Londonderry
FR673 22:05 Dublin


FRIDAY
FR662 07:30 Dublin
FR3712 11:20 Faro
FR1254 12:00 Katowice
FR2153 12:25 Alicante
FR1109 15:45 Londonderry
FR1449 16:10 Lanzarote
FR666 16:25 Dublin
FR3742 17:00 Fuerteventura
FR2150 17:30 Alicante
FR1083 17:40 Barcelona-Reus
FR672 22:00 Dublin
FR2812 22:25 Montpellier
FR9162 23:15 Barcelona
FR2157 23:25 Malaga
FR3902 23:59 Malta

FR2152 06:20 Alicante
FR1253 06:30 Katowice
FR1448 07:10 Lanzarote
FR663 07:55 Dublin
FR3741 07:55 Fuerteventura
FR3711 11:45 Faro
FR1082 12:45 Barcelona-Reus
FR1108 12:55 Londonderry
FR3901 16:35 Malta
FR667 16:50 Dublin
FR2156 17:00 Malaga
FR2151 17:55 Alicante
FR2811 18:05 Montpellier
FR9163 18:05 Barcelona
FR673 22:25 Dublin


SATURDAY
FR662 07:30 Dublin
FR9474 08:00 Barcelona-Girona
FR749 11:50 Gdansk
FR1464 13:05 Milan-Bergamo
FR2155 13:45 Murcia
FR1122 16:10 Tenerife-South
FR2257 17:25 Malaga
FR1999 17:30 Perpignan
FR666 18:05 Dublin
FR3712 18:55 Faro
FR2163 19:35 Palma de Mallorca
FR2153 20:00 Alicante
FR672 23:00 Dublin
FR1213 23:05 Bydgoszcz
FR2157 23:35 Malaga
FR735 23:55 Bratislava

FR748 06:30 Gdansk
FR1121 06:45 Tenerife-South
FR1463 07:00 Milan-Bergamo
FR2154 07:45 Murcia
FR663 07:55 Dublin
FR9473 08:25 Barcelona-Girona
FR1998 12:50 Perpignan
FR2152 13:55 Alicante
FR667 15:30 Dublin
FR2156 17:10 Malaga
FR2256 17:50 Malaga
FR1212 17:55 Bydgoszcz
FR734 18:30 Bratislava
FR3711 19:20 Faro
FR2162 20:00 Palma de Mallorca
FR673 20:25 Dublin


SUNDAY
FR662 07:30 Dublin
FR2157 09:15 Malaga
FR1449 11:20 Lanzarote
FR1215 12:35 Kaunas
FR1085 12:45 Rzeszow
FR2163 13:55 Palma de Mallorca
FR9162 15:50 Barcelona
FR1129 16:10 Gran Canaria
FR1097 18:20 Trieste
FR1466 19:35 Krakow
FR2153 19:35 Alicante
FR2712 21:05 Ibiza
FR672 21:40 Dublin
FR1109 22:50 Londonderry
FR2150 23:20 Alicante
FR1083 23:40 Barcelona-Reus

FR1214 06:25 Kaunas
FR1084 06:40 Rzeszow
FR1128 06:50 Gran Canaria
FR663 07:55 Dublin
FR2162 08:20 Palma de Mallorca
FR2156 09:55 Malaga
FR1448 11:45 Lanzarote
FR1096 13:25 Trieste
FR1465 14:20 Krakow
FR2711 15:00 Ibiza
FR9163 16:20 Barcelona
FR2151 17:15 Alicante
FR1082 18:45 Barcelona-Reus
FR1108 20:00 Londonderry
FR2152 20:00 Alicante
FR673 22:05 Dublin

Based aircraft: 4
Destinations: 27
Total weekly flights: 218 (109 arr/109 dep)

With that amount of traffic, the airline is able to feed BHX with about 2.2 million passengers per year. While Ryanair at Luton is down by 600,000 passengers.

I thought it might be down to the aircraft at Luton flying sectors, but this doesn't seem to the case, as both bases fly to the Canaries and Malta, which are about the longest sectors.

Also the above only shows sectors flown by Birmingham based aircraft and if other Ryanair aircraft from other bases serve Birmingham, the passenger numbers for the airport will be higher. But the figure for Luton is for ALL Ryanair flights, regardless of the bases they are flown from.

So it would seem Luton based aircraft are not utilised as highly, the load factors are weaker or the aircraft at Luton do a lot more W flights than other bases.

[Buster the Bear]

Thanks LTNman and others, I guess if the Autair helicopter hangar was removed, this would significantly boost parking options. Good to see a 'real' 737 parked there!

[Expressflight]

gilesdavies

Isn't the DUB route operated by a DUB based aircraft in the BHX schedules you posted?

[Hangar6]

FR LTN DUB

Indeed it is a Dublin based a/c

[OltonPete]

FR @ BHX

Obviously a Luton thread and I don't want to hijack it with BHX stats but to add a bit of context to the BHX schedules.

Some of flights quoted are only one month therefore just 4or 5 return flights such as te Friday Faro, Sunday Lanzerote, Saturday Malaga (might be July & Aug) plus LDY on a Thursday is Jun-AUG as is BCN on Tu/Th.

Dublin is mainly Dublin based aircraft except for two on a Saturday.

They have filled the gaps better this year other than Thursday morning but remember last winter had up to 13 based with some days just one or two operating however they have definitely upped the flying from other bases.

The August schedule is the equivilant to having six based.

Pete

[FRatSTN]

Yes it was me who posted Ryanair's weekly timetable for Birmingham. I have their timetable for each day of the week in August (the busiest month) for all of Ryanair's UK bases except Stansted just because it's so large and time consuming to sift through. The schedule gilesdavies reposted is ALL Ryanair flights at Birmingham in August, not just from the 4 aircraft based there.

BHX has 218 total weekly FR flights whilst Luton is slightly behind at 210. I think Birmingham does have more additional flights for August so they are virtually neck and neck for much of the summer.

I can post Luton's weekly FR schedule if anybody would like to see it but I don't think it's neccessary to. Also remember that Birmingham tends to be smaller than Luton in terms of FR traffic through the winter months.

With that amount of traffic, the airline is able to feed BHX with about 2.2 million passengers per year. While Ryanair at Luton is down by 600,000 passengers.

Birmingham will go nowhere near 2.2 million FR passengers p.a. East Midlands is a lot larger at 366 weekly flights with 8 a/c in August as well as some non-based aircraft flights and Ryanair said in October 2012 that 2.3 million passengers would use FR from EMA in 2013. They also estimated 2.4 million at Manchester, 2.1 million at Liverpool, 1.8 million at Edinburgh and 1.4 million at Prestwick when announcing new routes from there some months ago.

Whilst Prestwick has 4 a/c also, there are quite a few less non-based a/c operating from there so 1.6 million for the whole of 2013 for both Birmingham and Luton is about right.

[LTNman]

All change for bus services from airport to capital - Business - Luton Today

Just had a quick look at the timetable. Coaches run through the night and from 03:30 they run every 10 minutes from London.

Bus operator Arriva says it is “extremely disappointed” after losing the contract to run bus services from Luton Airport into London.

The Green Line 757 service has run on the route for more than 30 years, but will no longer include the airport from May 1.

A new National Express service will now run between the airport and the capital, but will not serve Luton town centre.

The company says its new A1 service will mean “faster journey times, more frequent services, and more seats available at peak times”. There will be coaches every 10 minutes at peak times, with 150 services to and from the airport every day.

Coaches will have free WiFi, power sockets and business-class legroom

A spokesman for London Luton Airport Operations Ltd (LLAOL) said such services were regularly reviewed. Other bus services to Luton town centre were available, he added.

A National Express spokesman said: “Our new A1 service is entirely dedicated to Luton Airport and is designed in a way that will best serve our airport customers. In providing this bespoke service we aim to improve Luton Airport’s connectivity and consolidate its reputation as a leading UK airport.”

Paul Adcock, managing director for Arriva’s Shires region, said: “At the moment we can confirm that a service between Luton town centre and London will continue to operate. There is likely to be a change to the timetable, and further updates will be available in the next few days.

“We would like to take this opportunity to thank all our customers for the support.”

[Nyerp]

Wat-ltn

I heard be will be starting wat-man this summer and wat are in discussions to start wat-ltn with a number of different airlines.

[gilesdavies]

Well I think the new bus service between the airport and London is sad news, not just for the airport, but also for town itself...

Greenline have done a great job serving the airport and even grown over years the meet the demands as the airport has grown.

I find it hard to understand why two bus operators cannot co-exist and compete against each other on the same route, and I maybe wrong, but to me it comes across as greed on the airports part, and have chosen the operator who has offered them the most money!

I didn't realise the airport got involved in things like this and thought public transport to and form the airport would be decided by the individual operators, and not that the airport could kick an operator off a route.

Surely both operators could co-exist, both operating slighty reduced timetables, for example every 20 mins at peak times, but with each operator departing at alternate 10 minute intervals and every 30 mins at other times operating alternately every 15 mins.

Greenline have offered very good value fares too, with tickets for only £15.50 for a period return. Looking on National Express' website, the cheapest fares are £12.50 each way...

I highly doubt Luton, will be able to sustain the current frequency of buses to London without the stop at the airport, and would expect Greenline reduce the service to something like hourly or half hourly at peak times.

[davidjohnson6]

giles - I take a slightly different view... The coach almost identically replicates the route of the train service - Brent Cross is near Hendon, Finchley Road is near West Hampstead. The train service in my opinion is pretty good - I can't see a need for a Luton-London high frequency coach as well. A pay-the-driver one way ticket from London to Luton airport at £17.50 for a 1 hour coach ride seems very expensive.

[Kinder]

Ryanair to cancel LTN-VNO route from May 13.

Wizz operates LTN-VNO 7x weekly in winter, 9x weekly spring/autumn, 11x weekly summer peak.

Maybe new routes to come, as they will get ton of spare capacity as LTN-VNO was 7h block daily route?

[boeing_eng]

South Stands

A rumour I heard today which apparently came from a handling agent is that Wizz will use the South Stands fairly soon. A win-win situation as the main apron gets very congested during the purple wave each morning!

[FRatSTN]

Ryanair to cancel LTN-VNO route from May 13.

Wizz operates LTN-VNO 7x weekly in winter, 9x weekly spring/autumn, 11x weekly summer peak.

Maybe new routes to come, as they will get ton of spare capacity as LTN-VNO was 7h block daily route?

The route is just moving back to Kaunas. It will operate to the same schedule as Vilnius.

I wonder if it means Gatwick will be axed from Kaunas in the near future, it's still currently on sale though.

[LTNman]

...and of course "Speccies" eventually made way for the Ocean Sky FBO facility there.

No element of "Speccies" structure was incorporated into the FBO, indeed there was a 'void' in that area for a while at least (2003 - 2005-ish? - anyone remember better than I do?). Because I know for sure that for a week or so during that time easyJet erected a marquee there for the press launch of their new LTN - Berlin-Schonefeld route.

Just a little bit of Airport history for the record...

Fast Eddie.

This was the last Spectators building before the final closure. Seem to remember it was incorporated into the Harrods FBO as it faced the south apron. The place was the pits and very cold with an open corridoor. Maybe it was knocked down as Fast Eddie says.

[pabely]

This does bring back some memories seeing the spotters and families on asunny day. I remember an old chap with a blue cycle who seemed to hang out atall the north London airports (seen at Stansted, Elstree, Denham & Leavesden) before I was old enough to fly myself.

My dad, using Luton flying club used to take me all round to areas we couldn'tdream of nowadays!

[TSR2]

LTNman

Just out of curiousity, what is the aircraft in the background of your nostalgic picture. I recognise the tail colour scheme but cannot bring it to mind.

[Mr @ Spotty M]

It is the Twin jet Airbus A319.

[LTNman]

I see that the Anti-Luton Airport noise candidate got just 3% of the vote in the Wigmore ward council by-election. People living in the Wigmore ward live the closest to the airport. The airport is also part of this ward.

[pabely]

I see the local Hatfield/Welwyn rang has been showing how great their localcouncil is, describing Luton airport noise in the same breath as an airplanecrash! R.I.P. Hatfield Airport - one of the greatest homes of British aviation.

Their worry is the B653 - Get behind the A505 re-routing project andHerts/Beds all benefit! Better infrastructure attracts companies and thus jobs!

[Powerjet1]

Reasonable CAA stats for March. Pax up 5.6% to 715,403 with the rolling year up 1.1% to 9.63m.