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Old 26th May 2017, 21:38
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edi local,

It's only changed recently so you won't be so lucky next time.

RAT 5 said 'whats new'

It's that RA have gone to some effort and trouble to worsen their PAX experience.
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Old 26th May 2017, 22:50
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Flew them at the weekend for the first time in a year or so, and glad it's not just me, yes what a piece of nonsense this is now... 2 people in same booking sat at opposite ends of aircraft in middle seats, even though the check in sequence numbers were so low that with the exception of reserved seats the seat map should have still been wide open.
OLCI only available 4 days before travel if you don't have seats reserved too, but 30 days before if you do. Definite downgrade in service there.
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Old 26th May 2017, 22:59
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They are now sending you randomly around the aircraft, most people will continue to not reserve seats together and then spend the whole flight moving about the aircraft to interact with their friends and family...that will impact massively on the Ryanair sales of food and drink... who's idea was this? Likewise easyJets ridiculous 1 bag on board policy, everyone's held up squashing their airport purchases or handbag into their cabin bag at the gate and then once on board need to take time to unpack it again... blocking the aisles and holding up the departure....sometimes I think these airlines are run by muppets
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Old 27th May 2017, 00:28
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It's that RA have gone to some effort
Trav - changing the unreserved seat assignment logic does not involve much effort at all. Should be more than possible to amend the software that assigns seats and test within a few days for one person. There was probably far greater cost to the company in the various levels of management spending time deciding whether to implement a new 'more commercial' seat assignment policy

Waldo - you're confusing sales revenue with profit. From a flight full of people, the average food/drink revenue on board is a few pounds, of which a fair chunk has to go in costs - namely buying the food/drink, loading it onto the plane, printing menus, cleaning the cabin at each turnaround, etc, etc...
A reserved seat has almost zero cost to the airline, and enforcement is usually done by other passengers - 'Oy, you are sitting in my seat'. Never mind if food/drink takes a bit of a hit, the profits from seat reservations will likely more than cover it.
As soon as the mainstream travel press across Europe picks on this new policy and publishes articles, passengers *may* decide en masse to start paying up for those seat reservations

In marketing speak, you are being 'monetised'
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Old 27th May 2017, 03:35
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It does seem Ryanair have adopted the Wizz Air approach to allocated seating. It's a real shame because the old Ryanair system was really good at keeping people together 90-95% of the time, even without purchased seats.

Originally Posted by Trav a la
Thanks for the replies.

Our free seating allocation on last 3 flight during the last 2 weeks.

10D + 14D
4C + 27C
8C + 23C
Do people now have an option to purchase a seat after online checkin?
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Old 27th May 2017, 03:45
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
As soon as the mainstream travel press across Europe picks on this new policy and publishes articles, passengers *may* decide en masse to start paying up for those seat reservations

In marketing speak, you are being 'monetised'
I don't think you will ever see people paying "en masse" even if covered widely by the media.

You will find those who have to pay (travelling with families or the elderly) and those who have someone else paying (business travellers), but just about everyone else will put up with the pain.

Of course, the small take up still makes it well worth it for Ryanair.
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Old 27th May 2017, 18:36
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Originally Posted by Trav a la
edi local,

It's only changed recently so you won't be so lucky next time.

RAT 5 said 'whats new'

It's that RA have gone to some effort and trouble to worsen their PAX experience.
I'm confused by this post.

The last line appears to purport to add some additional information to the discussion.

But, unless I am missing something significant, it doesn't. Not at all.

The previous post saying "what's new" summed up pithily the modus operandi of the "Low Class" Carrier (or should that really be the "No Class" Carrier?)

And this post appears to suggest that "go[ing] to some effort and trouble to worsen their PAX experience" is some sort of innovation (sic).
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Old 27th May 2017, 20:11
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Another thing I have noticed is that under the previous system, even when booking at the very last minute you could still have a real chance of finding seats together (for example, rows 31/32 since these were the very last to be assigned).

Right now, for departures in the next days I only see a few scattered window and aisle seats all over the aircraft. If booking late and travelling as a group, definitely not an enticement to book seats together.
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Old 29th May 2017, 13:50
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Met up with friends over weekend where we all flew in and they found that the new seating plan was in operation with kids spread across the aircraft where previously put together even checking late.

However they did check 4 days out and fares were low and it appeared there were 70 plus seats unallocated so they gambled there would be spare rows and it worked. Maybe not do so again which is really what Ryanair want people to do.

There is the option at checkin to pay to have everybody seated together.

Travelling solo at weekends I haveon quite a few occasions got an exit row seat for nowt.
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Old 29th May 2017, 18:08
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Originally Posted by racedo
Met up with friends over weekend where we all flew in and they found that the new seating plan was in operation with kids spread across the aircraft where previously put together even checking late.

However they did check 4 days out and fares were low and it appeared there were 70 plus seats unallocated so they gambled there would be spare rows and it worked. Maybe not do so again which is really what Ryanair want people to do.

There is the option at checkin to pay to have everybody seated together.

Travelling solo at weekends I haveon quite a few occasions got an exit row seat for nowt.
If there are children under 12 on a reservation, it is MANDATORY that one adult pays for a reserved seat (the system won't continue with the booking otherwise). Then up to 4 children aged 12 or under receive a free seat which the person making the booking can select. This method won't work if you're booking last minute and seats together aren't available. There is no excuse for families with young persons being split up.

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Old 30th May 2017, 11:20
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Ryanair Expansion 47 B737 by March18

On the news today

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...re-boeing-jets

Well, everyone is expanding now EZY, WZZ and RYR
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Old 30th May 2017, 11:45
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Unable to open your link, so couldn't read it. Is it expansion or just fleet replacement? Some of their original frames are getting long in the tooth.
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Old 30th May 2017, 12:04
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Extra aircraft. A 12% expansion
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Old 30th May 2017, 13:03
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Originally Posted by Hotel Tango
Unable to open your link, so couldn't read it. Is it expansion or just fleet replacement? Some of their original frames are getting long in the tooth.
once again: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...re-boeing-jets
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Old 30th May 2017, 17:40
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Annual Financial Results
https://investor.ryanair.com/wp-cont...17-Results.pdf
https://investor.ryanair.com/wp-cont...esentation.pdf
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Old 30th May 2017, 18:37
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So much for brexit being bad for Ryanair, good old MOL.
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Old 30th May 2017, 19:08
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Originally Posted by NorthEasterner
If there are children under 12 on a reservation, it is MANDATORY that one adult pays for a reserved seat (the system won't continue with the booking otherwise). Then up to 4 children aged 12 or under receive a free seat which the person making the booking can select. This method won't work if you're booking last minute and seats together aren't available. There is no excuse for families with young persons being split up.

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The new seat assignment system makes it very difficult for late bookings with kids to secure seats together (unlike the previous one where rows 31, 32 were the very last to be allocated).

In some cases people nowadays are paying for a service they don't get at all.
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Old 30th May 2017, 19:22
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Originally Posted by NorthEasterner
If there are children under 12 on a reservation, it is MANDATORY that one adult pays for a reserved seat (the system won't continue with the booking otherwise). Then up to 4 children aged 12 or under receive a free seat which the person making the booking can select. This method won't work if you're booking last minute and seats together aren't available. There is no excuse for families with young persons being split up.

NE
Friends frig the system by paying for the fare and putting two of their kids in as adults.

Mind you I did this when it was £20 for a baby and fares were £1.99 for an adult
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Old 30th May 2017, 19:22
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What do you mean paying for a service they may not be getting?

If you're booking last minute (less than 4 days when most of the 'free' seats have been given away) then it is common sense that you are likely to be split up.

Rows 31 and 32 are often blocked off especially at the window seats, these are for PRM users. However I have seen at check-in that PRM users are sometimes allocated a total random seat.

FR have definitely changed the seating algorithm, however it doesn't always work favourably for PRM passengers. I refuse to show sympathy to those who complain about not being seated with their travelling companions (adults) because they did not purchase a reserved seat.

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Old 30th May 2017, 19:26
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Originally Posted by NorthEasterner

FR have definitely changed the seating algorithm, however it doesn't always work favourably for PRM passengers. I refuse to show sympathy to those who complain about not being seated with their travelling companions (adults) because they did not purchase a reserved seat.

NE
I agree...
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