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interesting. Whilst history has shown the all business-class, especially 'low cost', scheduled services are extremely delicate this is charter. It's just bigger seats and seat pitches in a charter aircraft and, as usual, "business class" is just marketing spin.
Actually I think I think there are some companies that might prefer to charter a jet that does not look too ostentatious. Companies that run shuttles between their plants would be a good example. The Trumps of this world are not the target. Of course Ryanair management also need to get around, so this was probably an easy idea to sell internally.
IMHO, the main question is whether this is a genuine new revenue generation venture or if it is a very cunning bit of self funding market research.
The company knows how to deal with "cattle class" on short and medium sectors, presumably that knowledge extends to longer, say 6 or so hour runs. What they don't currently know is what works for the discerning business traveller on medium and longer runs. This might be a very good way of carrying out some primary research into that demographic and how they can "Ryanair" that particular group.
After which, the issue for everyone is how, and where, they use that information.
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The company knows how to deal with "cattle class" on short and medium sectors, presumably that knowledge extends to longer, say 6 or so hour runs. What they don't currently know is what works for the discerning business traveller on medium and longer runs. This might be a very good way of carrying out some primary research into that demographic and how they can "Ryanair" that particular group.
After which, the issue for everyone is how, and where, they use that information.
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Aren't the characteristics of ad-hoc charter fairly different from schedule operation? So the data from chartering will be fairly meaningless for a company running cattle class medium hall (spelling?).
Unless they think about create a group like Toyota and Lexus.
Unless they think about create a group like Toyota and Lexus.
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I would think that their primary market would be high level sports teams (international, premiership, six nations etc, Champions League etc), I imagine it could be kept very busy just in that market sector, where the seats, layout and capacity look perfect.
It's also making a virtue of necessity. The 700 has a few issues for the role they bought it for - it's much shorter than the 800 so teaching cadets with no experience to land/fly the 800 innit is not ideal.
I understand it is also high on cycles, so 3600 cycles a year (600 cadets x6 landings a pop) is probably a bit beyond it so they're trying to get their money's worth out of it.
I understand it is also high on cycles, so 3600 cycles a year (600 cadets x6 landings a pop) is probably a bit beyond it so they're trying to get their money's worth out of it.
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The 700 has a few issues for the role they bought it for - it's much shorter than the 800 so teaching cadets with no experience to land the 800 in a 700 is not ideal.
Indeed I too found there is a subtle difference in the flare. Given that private charters sometimes want to go to 'out of the way' places, that will test their resources.
Indeed I too found there is a subtle difference in the flare. Given that private charters sometimes want to go to 'out of the way' places, that will test their resources.
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I assume that EI-SEV's function during the week will continue to be as corporate aircraft for travel to press conferences, meetings, etc.
For shareholders, it sounds a lot better to say you are entering the private charter business rather than having a big company business jet.
The business class seats will be a lot more comfortable than the 149Y configuration for trips to places like Tblisi (any FR route to Georgia to be announced soon?).
For shareholders, it sounds a lot better to say you are entering the private charter business rather than having a big company business jet.
The business class seats will be a lot more comfortable than the 149Y configuration for trips to places like Tblisi (any FR route to Georgia to be announced soon?).
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"They already know about it and are investigating the issue."
If you are one of the Ryanair customers who uses the popular Apple Safari browser, you may be encountering persistent problems with the new Ryanair website. Amongst these is the issue of on-screen boarding cards laid out in a peculiar four-fold format which print as a blank page. There used to be an easy fix for this - defaulting to Ryanair's original website which ran in parallel for a while. There were no compatibility issues with this. This option now appears to be withdrawn.
Having contacted Ryanair about this problem after another boarding card wouldn't format for printing, I was advised that: "They [Ryanair programmers] already know about it and are investigating the issue." However, this issue has existed since the new-style website first appeared, so it has been quite a while now. With the old website option no longer available the need for a fix has become urgent. Do we know a timescale for resolving this ... millions of people use the Safari browser?
In communication with Ryanair about the issue, I was advised: "Try deleting the browsing history and the cookies. It should solve the issue, safari has the most issues with our website out of all the browsers though." I actually did this, but unfortunately it made no difference. The boarding card still prints as a blank page.
I did ask whether the Ryanair representative could e.mail me a printable version of the boarding card. "We cannot send emails to our customers."
Can I access a boarding card at the airport without being charged since this is a website problem? "No, unfortunately. But you can download a different browser."
I have chosen NOT to download another browser ... I can just imagine the general problems that will cause. My own solution this time is to visit a friend's house and try to print my boarding card from their (non-Apple) computer. But I fly with Ryanair very frequently and I can't be messing around like this every time. It is disappointing that Ryanair has withdrawn access to the previous version of the website (which worked fine) before the issues with the new one had been addressed.
Can anybody advise a timescale for Ryanair resolving its website compatibility issues with Apple's popular Safari browser? Thanks.
Having contacted Ryanair about this problem after another boarding card wouldn't format for printing, I was advised that: "They [Ryanair programmers] already know about it and are investigating the issue." However, this issue has existed since the new-style website first appeared, so it has been quite a while now. With the old website option no longer available the need for a fix has become urgent. Do we know a timescale for resolving this ... millions of people use the Safari browser?
In communication with Ryanair about the issue, I was advised: "Try deleting the browsing history and the cookies. It should solve the issue, safari has the most issues with our website out of all the browsers though." I actually did this, but unfortunately it made no difference. The boarding card still prints as a blank page.
I did ask whether the Ryanair representative could e.mail me a printable version of the boarding card. "We cannot send emails to our customers."
Can I access a boarding card at the airport without being charged since this is a website problem? "No, unfortunately. But you can download a different browser."
I have chosen NOT to download another browser ... I can just imagine the general problems that will cause. My own solution this time is to visit a friend's house and try to print my boarding card from their (non-Apple) computer. But I fly with Ryanair very frequently and I can't be messing around like this every time. It is disappointing that Ryanair has withdrawn access to the previous version of the website (which worked fine) before the issues with the new one had been addressed.
Can anybody advise a timescale for Ryanair resolving its website compatibility issues with Apple's popular Safari browser? Thanks.
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Shed your wasting your time pursuing this with Ryanair, if they have known about it all this time and still dont have a fix its obviously not on their agenda until it starts to hit them financially.
My advice is try another browser such as Firefox, there is nothing to worry about and to be honest I think its better than safari.
My advice is try another browser such as Firefox, there is nothing to worry about and to be honest I think its better than safari.
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