Ryanair - 9

[Heathrow Harry]

generally yes but you'd be amazed how many offices you visit are actually "in the backwoods" often near a Ryanair airport - people are always looking to cut costs on office space

And they fly to a hell of a lot of places no-one else does - some places it would take 2 changes from LHR and others means hiring a car and a couple of hours drive or more

[EI-BUD]

Airborne,

'Numpties' not quite so. The race is now not for seats but for baggage storage space, being late on while you might have your pre assigned seat, you are not guaranteed that your bag will get a place in the over head locker. Hence it may go into the hold. This I suspect why people queue up so early ?

I've not flown FR in a number of years, but looking forward to giving it another go in the near future.

[Waldo1]

I agree, i recently flew to bratislava and back with ryanair...its like a different airline now...so much better! Only thing was they went down the line stickering perfectly acceptable hand luggage and this was then wrenched from peoples hands at the airplane steps...at least theyre not trying to charge you though! In fact as ryanair morph into blue easyjet, sadly easyjet are also morphing in to a more tragic version of old ryanair 😒

[INeedTheFull90]

And how would easyJet be doing that?

[racedo]

generally yes but you'd be amazed how many offices you visit are actually "in the backwoods" often near a Ryanair airport - people are always looking to cut costs on office space

And they fly to a hell of a lot of places no-one else does - some places it would take 2 changes from LHR and others means hiring a car and a couple of hours drive or more

Always love hearing of the well HQs are based closer to Heathrow idea....

Large US company I know used to think that until they sending their people to the production facilities in Spain / Italy / Germany / France and Poland.

Fly from Stansted they leave same time as getting to LHR and arrive within 20km of site they need to visit, no flights from LHR to the airports so a change needed.

Losing BA airmiles was a negative for most until a single night away became norm instead of minimum 2 and over the last 6 years the number of lates and cancellations was an exception rather than norm.

Company put on Exec car to mollify people travelling to Stansted which means they get picked up from home a lot and dropped back later. Losing Airmiles to the getting there and back quickly is not comparable. The travel budget is apparently 50% of what it was yet they travel more because reduced away from homes.

I know of few people who travel who delight being away from home for more than a night..

[Waldo1]

Flying home from malaga this summer with 2 carry on bags, grip style that were half full. Bags that we have travelled with for the last 6 years, the woman at the bag drop desk went mental as about 3 inches of the stiff frame stuck out of the bag checker stand. She then became most agressive in demanding we check these bags in and pay 70 euro. When i politely stated that we had travelled with these bags both on ezy and other airlines...she went into overdrive shouting that we would not be allowed on the plane and it would be over 100 euro at the gate...talk about the hard sell! I calmly told her i would deal with that at the gate so she proceeded to make a fake phonecall to her supervisor who amazingly was going to be boarding our exact flight and fake told him all aboit us and our 2 saggy bags...finally to add insult to injury she wrote all over our boarding cards"do not let these bags on the plane" the whole thing was a disgrace...i dont even understand why she was getting involved, all she was there to do was bag drop our case that was checked in the hold! Needless to say, i used my mobile boarding cards and there was no fake supervisor anywhere near the gate.
Its not just a one off, i now see them constantly scouring the line looking for any chance to penalise travellers with bags, much like ryanair used to do in the bad old days....so yes, after years of loving easyjet (and i do travel a lot on business and pleasure) theyve now turned into a nightmare overnight.

[01475]

Allocated seating or not, the numpties are still queuing up 45 mins before the aircraft is even on stand. So turnarounds are still as quick. There may be a new cuddlier Ryanair, but having been slapped too many times, it will take a lot for people to trust the new Ryanair.

Because now the fear is that you won't get your hand luggage onto the plane...

They've come so close to being a civilised way to fly, but they always manage to spoil it somehow.

[EI-BUD]

Waldo1, sorry to hear about your bad experience.

However, I find easyJet great, I travel with them loads for work and pleasure, though I often need to use other carriers to get me to where I need to go for work.

One thing that they need to brush up on is their onboard baggage allowance. They need to go 2 onboard bags, on of which has to go under the seat in front, larger trolley type bags above...

Slightly off topic as I realise this is easyJet thread ...

[Waldo1]

Ei bud, im the same, my point here on the ryr thread was to say at how good ryanair now are with their customers, and not treating them like dogs, making you feel confident that you will get on their plane, with no trouble... Flybe are the same, i now use them more than ezy for work, because i have the choice and i see them trying their best to accommadate folk and their slightly large cabin bags

[MidlandDeltic]

I would have thought business travels would want to fly to a city's principle or main secondary airport rather than an airport buried in the back woods.

Hmmm. Dublin is "in the backwoods"? BHX? Edinburgh? Manchester? EMA, even? Dare I say, Luton?????!!

You pays your money, you takes your cjoice. Having had a business contact in Karlsruhe, it was a pain in the butt to have to travel BHX - Frankfurt then train on one occasion, after Fr had pulled out Stansted - Baden Baden.

[INeedTheFull90]

If you bag is too big, regardless of the airline, then it needs to be checked in. Baggage rules are clearly stated. And FR still have the cardboard sizers which they patrol the queue with. EasyJet allow one bag. That is clear. You turn up with two, you're going to have to pay. And EJ is the only one who GUARANTEES that EVERYONE can bring a bag onboard, unlike FR who only allow first 90 or so. Sorry, but you have zero sympathy. Of you don't comply with the rules and get stung, of course you will prefer FR, for now.

[Gulf Julliet Papa]

And EJ is the only one who GUARANTEES that EVERYONE can bring a bag onboard, unlike FR who only allow first 90 or so.

Actually with the relaxing of cabin luggage rules everyone CAN bring on a bag, if it fits into the smaller gauge. There are now two bag gauges (two sided gauges). The first 90 of the larger bags will be allowed on, however every single one that fits in the smaller gauge can be taken on board. This is the same as easyjet that has two gauges....a guaranteed size, a larger "may get offloaded" size. Proof in the pudding...

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[PAXboy]

I think a lot of this is carrier implementing rules that they often ignored.

I have seen both FR and EZ ignore large bags and also go down the queue without letting anyone off.

It's like the Americans who were soft on letting in over sized 'cabin' bags for years and now they have great difficulty reversing that.

[lplsprog]

From what I've heard the ground staff get 50p for every bag they disallow which then has to go into the hold.

[Waldo1]

No full 90, you are missing the point. This woman was getting involved with something she shouldnt have been, plus launching a personal vendetta against 3 customers along with partaking in a charade of lies...its just not good enough. Along with standing in a line of passengers with far bigger cases, this whole idea of" you must obey our rule one day, but most other days, who cares about the rule" not acceptable. The airlines sole reason for being in business is to transport passengers from a to b. Its not to harass their customers to abide by their silly rules, just when it suits them. Im not interested in bickering over silly rules and how they are interpreted, our bags were smaller than most others on the plane, easily fitted in the overhead locker, or under my seat. But, thanks to that one obnoxious member of staff, ezy have lost out. I have now switched to flybe for my domestic travels with work, and 4 of us are all off to malaga this week again, courtesy of aer lingus this time. And next summers flights are again also now booked with aer lingus...

[The96er]

From what I've heard the ground staff get 50p for every bag they disallow which then has to go into the hold

Not true.

their silly rules

Ah yes, this is the "Those rule don't apply to me only other passengers" excuse.

[INeedTheFull90]

GJP - the FR guaranteed bag is the size of a handbag. Not really the same is it?

[INeedTheFull90]

Waldorf - if anyone is singled out then you must wonder why?

[Mouser]

Cabin luggage is for tight arse minges, I pay for my luggage to go in the hold, and are then asked to put my little haversack under my seat under my bloody feet so all you whinging tight arse minges can put your Cabin luggage in the in the over head lockers. The sooner the airlines make the cabin luggage size smaller the better, then maybe I'll not be asked to put my SMALL HAND LUGGAGE under my feet

[Waldo1]

Would u all listen to yourselves....yawn.