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Incident FR Dublin
I am not a FR basher, but interested in reactions from an operational point of view:
somewhat edited google translate from: Flygplan från Ryanair körde mot trafiken | Res | Allt Om Resor Resetips Reseguider Tips om din nästa resa | Expressen Allt Om Resor
Aircraft from Ryanair taxied against traffic
A Ryanair plane created some panic in the air traffic control tower , after a 180 turn started to taxi on the runway.
Now investigated the incident by the Aviation Authority, said VG.no.
The alarm came on February 15 when Ryanair aircraft from London Stansted landed at Dublin airport.
When the plane was at the end of the runway after landing turned suddenly to 180 degrees and started rolling back the same way it just arrived.
The pilot never veered off the runway and onto the so-called taxiway, as the rules say that the pilot must do.
In the air, several other flights that would land, and air traffic control tower was quickly notify the pilots to immediately stop the approaches and take an extra lap in the air over the airport, writes Norwegian VG.no.
One of the planes was forced to abort the approach, was another Ryanair planes. One of the pilots called the flight tower and asked what was going on. According to the Daily Mail, who heard the call, said flight control tower that there was another Ryanair plane was "uh, screwed everything ...".
Admits mistakes
There are indications that the aircraft missed an exit. At smaller airports, it is not uncommon for aircraft making a u-turn at the end of the runway and then rolls back towards the terminal building, the same way it came from. But at the busiest airports, like the one in Dublin, the plane roll off the track as soon as it has slowed.
Irish Aviation Authority, IAA is concerned about the incident and says it is now under investigation.
Ryanair admits that a mistake has been made in Dublin on 15 February, but the company currently has no further comments.
somewhat edited google translate from: Flygplan från Ryanair körde mot trafiken | Res | Allt Om Resor Resetips Reseguider Tips om din nästa resa | Expressen Allt Om Resor
Aircraft from Ryanair taxied against traffic
A Ryanair plane created some panic in the air traffic control tower , after a 180 turn started to taxi on the runway.
Now investigated the incident by the Aviation Authority, said VG.no.
The alarm came on February 15 when Ryanair aircraft from London Stansted landed at Dublin airport.
When the plane was at the end of the runway after landing turned suddenly to 180 degrees and started rolling back the same way it just arrived.
The pilot never veered off the runway and onto the so-called taxiway, as the rules say that the pilot must do.
In the air, several other flights that would land, and air traffic control tower was quickly notify the pilots to immediately stop the approaches and take an extra lap in the air over the airport, writes Norwegian VG.no.
One of the planes was forced to abort the approach, was another Ryanair planes. One of the pilots called the flight tower and asked what was going on. According to the Daily Mail, who heard the call, said flight control tower that there was another Ryanair plane was "uh, screwed everything ...".
Admits mistakes
There are indications that the aircraft missed an exit. At smaller airports, it is not uncommon for aircraft making a u-turn at the end of the runway and then rolls back towards the terminal building, the same way it came from. But at the busiest airports, like the one in Dublin, the plane roll off the track as soon as it has slowed.
Irish Aviation Authority, IAA is concerned about the incident and says it is now under investigation.
Ryanair admits that a mistake has been made in Dublin on 15 February, but the company currently has no further comments.
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<<A Ryanair plane created some panic in the air traffic control tower>>
Nothing unusual there then. Air traffic controllers are rigorously trained to panic at the slightest excuse!
Nothing unusual there then. Air traffic controllers are rigorously trained to panic at the slightest excuse!
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Nobody is immune from incidents of this kind - the question is how the airline handles them. A rock bottom third world airline, and Ryanair's legal department are at great pains to point out they are not one of them, would just sack the crew involved as a warning to others. They would make no effort to discover the thought processes involved in the crew and just punish them for bringing public embarrassment to an already under-pressure airline. A professional, high-quality airline, however, would debrief the crew at length and then retrain them to proficiency. Finally they would bring the lessons learnt to the attention of all the airline's other pilots to prevent a similar incident happening again. I am sure that Ryanair will adopt that line, as they are of course a very professional airline etc, etc.
As an interesting aside, readers may be interested in the following incident which shows how it can all go pear-shaped very quickly in low visibility conditions -
As an interesting aside, readers may be interested in the following incident which shows how it can all go pear-shaped very quickly in low visibility conditions -
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As already mentioned a thread was started about this incident a week or so ago. Despite this being of an operational and safety related nature, it was quickly removed and buried in the "Airports Airlines and Routes" forum where few pilots (if any) would see it as this is mainly a forum where mostly non pilots talk about new routes etc. There wasn't even the usual pointer / note to say where it had been moved to.
Expect the same of this thread soon ......
Expect the same of this thread soon ......
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@Alexander de Merkaat: Nice exposition but sadly I don't believe this is going to happen quite as you explain. As Ryanairs Public Relations department is at great pains to explain, they are a low cost airline always aiming to provide to the needs of their customer base (also: to provide for the basest needs of their customers 
). Nothing increases the sensation of safety in these uninformed minds that the pilots have ben drawn, quartered and hung for their crimes... or in modern times they have been instantly fired.
Sad indeed
). Nothing increases the sensation of safety in these uninformed minds that the pilots have ben drawn, quartered and hung for their crimes... or in modern times they have been instantly fired. Sad indeed
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I can't for the life of me figure out what more has to be said unless useless what-if speculations
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Originally Posted by Aldente
it was quickly removed and buried in the "Airports Airlines and Routes" forum where few pilots (if any) would see it
Any ideas what constitutes a 'Rumour or News' nowadays?
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NATS Statistics Confirm Ryanair Is One Of The UK's Most Safety?
Ryanair Feb Traffic Down 3%
They have included that last year was a leap year and that counted for 3 of the 6% fall in passengers.
There LF increased 1% but they don't put that down to one less that flying than in 2012....
Ryanair Feb Traffic Down 3%
They have included that last year was a leap year and that counted for 3 of the 6% fall in passengers.
There LF increased 1% but they don't put that down to one less that flying than in 2012....
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More problems for FR as Budapest Airport are taking them to court.
Airport in legal action against Ryanair over alleged debt - Independent.ie
Looks like the STN cuts may of just being a big PR spin.
Ryanair accused of 'bullish' tactics with threat to cut flights | This is Essex
Airport in legal action against Ryanair over alleged debt - Independent.ie
Looks like the STN cuts may of just being a big PR spin.
Ryanair accused of 'bullish' tactics with threat to cut flights | This is Essex
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