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heard today that bristol will only have 2 based aircraft from the end of march, down from 5 at present, although only 2 are used & rotated during the winter, the good news is that none of the summer routes are being axed just done from other bases
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Do you have confirmation of that? It seems to be the case now but we aren't really sure whether they will later change the schedule (as they often do) to utilise the usual five aircraft. It does seem strange only having two because what will happen to the Bristol based crew? Probabaly quite a few relocation of jobs to other UK airports I would imagine.
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Overview of Poland Expansion
KRAKOW
- 2 aircraft based (New Base)
- 4 new routes (Gothenburg, Dortmund, Manchester, Kos)
- 3 routes with enhanced capacity (Rome Ciampino, Oslo-Rygge, East Midlands)
- Number of flights incl DUB to switch to KRK based crew
WARSAW MODLIN
- 5 new routes (Bari, Pisa, Trapani, Marseille, Palma de Mallorca )
- 2 routes with capacity increases (Rome-Ciampino, Oslo Rygge)
WROCLAW
- 1 extra based aircraft (2 in total)
- 1 new route (Zadar)
- 3 routes with enhanced capacity (Stansted, East Midlands, Glasgow)
- Small number of flights to switch to WRO based crew
LODZ
- Edinburgh to return early in January.
POZNAN
- Edinburgh to return early in January
KRAKOW
- 2 aircraft based (New Base)
- 4 new routes (Gothenburg, Dortmund, Manchester, Kos)
- 3 routes with enhanced capacity (Rome Ciampino, Oslo-Rygge, East Midlands)
- Number of flights incl DUB to switch to KRK based crew
WARSAW MODLIN
- 5 new routes (Bari, Pisa, Trapani, Marseille, Palma de Mallorca )
- 2 routes with capacity increases (Rome-Ciampino, Oslo Rygge)
WROCLAW
- 1 extra based aircraft (2 in total)
- 1 new route (Zadar)
- 3 routes with enhanced capacity (Stansted, East Midlands, Glasgow)
- Small number of flights to switch to WRO based crew
LODZ
- Edinburgh to return early in January.
POZNAN
- Edinburgh to return early in January
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While it looks on the surface like "major" expansion - its a lot of smoke and mirrors to build up PR for these bases. 1 based A/C with 1 new route just says to me its a lot of "asset moving" from base to base rather than major expansion. Its the same in EDI where it looks to only be 6 based (same as last year, down on 2 years ago) and PIK...as well as EMA.
With 8 A/C deliveries left there is no real expansion left, just moving assets from base to base...
Major expansion will come with the next A/C order.
With 8 A/C deliveries left there is no real expansion left, just moving assets from base to base...
Major expansion will come with the next A/C order.
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It's hard to see how Krakow can be expanded much more by FR until the new terminal which should be ready in 2015 is built. Ryanair are believed to want to expand more but they need the infrastructure to be able to do it.
The existing terminal was designed for 2.8m passengers at the most and last year it handled 3.01m and was very crowded in peak times. This year it's on course for over 3.4m passengers and was pure chaos in the summer at any time other than the early mornings.
The trouble is none of these problems can really be resolved until the new terminal is built
- Only 1 large baggage belt and 1 small one
- Only 4 security channels (Can take around an hour at peak time)
- Only 4 passport control kiosks (3 flights come in at once = 45 min wait)
- Only room to accommodate 8 aircraft at any one time
- Outdoor tents erected to house passengers as when 7-8 gates are in use, there is physically not enough room for passengers to wait in the terminal.
Therefore the only real way of getting extra flights into this terminal is simply by basing aircraft there, which allows you to launch flights from around 6-8am, when the airport is still quiet apart from domestic traffic, rest of the day, it's mayhem, and it's only going to get worse.
The existing terminal was designed for 2.8m passengers at the most and last year it handled 3.01m and was very crowded in peak times. This year it's on course for over 3.4m passengers and was pure chaos in the summer at any time other than the early mornings.
The trouble is none of these problems can really be resolved until the new terminal is built
- Only 1 large baggage belt and 1 small one
- Only 4 security channels (Can take around an hour at peak time)
- Only 4 passport control kiosks (3 flights come in at once = 45 min wait)
- Only room to accommodate 8 aircraft at any one time
- Outdoor tents erected to house passengers as when 7-8 gates are in use, there is physically not enough room for passengers to wait in the terminal.
Therefore the only real way of getting extra flights into this terminal is simply by basing aircraft there, which allows you to launch flights from around 6-8am, when the airport is still quiet apart from domestic traffic, rest of the day, it's mayhem, and it's only going to get worse.
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Change of heart at ALC ?
Had a e.mail from Ryanair this afternoon advising me of a significant change to one of my summer 2013 return flights to Birmingham.
They have changed the 22:00 Sat evening flight which made for a relaxing last day to 07:15.
Needless to say I have cancelled.
Have they had a change of heart and are going to base their aircraft at Alicante again next summer for such a early start
They have changed the 22:00 Sat evening flight which made for a relaxing last day to 07:15.
Needless to say I have cancelled.
Have they had a change of heart and are going to base their aircraft at Alicante again next summer for such a early start
The trouble is none of these problems can really be resolved until the new terminal is built
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Operations from Dortmund (starting in March 2013) were announced on the 10th of October. Interesting to see them FR closing some routes to and from Germany because of the aviation tax and on the other hand announce new routes to and from Germany.
Any news if FR will return to Magdeburg-Cochstedt? Route map still shows PMI but no bookings are possible. They announced 2 weeks ago 2 new routes from Leipzig and a statement on Magdeburg would follow soon, but nothing has happened.
Any news if FR will return to Magdeburg-Cochstedt? Route map still shows PMI but no bookings are possible. They announced 2 weeks ago 2 new routes from Leipzig and a statement on Magdeburg would follow soon, but nothing has happened.
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There is not really so much of a problem in the winter, as almost a dozen routes at the airport are seasonal, whilst others have lower frequency in the winter.
But during the height of the summer from late morning to the evening it is always terribly busy, which led to temporary tents being errected to house passengers, there was even a huge waning message up on the Krakow website for most of the summer saying to allow much extra time for security as it could take at least an hour to clear.
I remember seeing about 18 flights go out between 8am and 10.30am one day when I was there and 10 were due to leave in the space of an hour. all it took was two of the earliest of those ten to be delayed and it was meltdown and a backlog of planes waiting for gates and way more passengers airside than the terminal could accommodate.
This of course then led to a few flights arriving at once which meant baggage was swamped with only the larger belt in use or about 5-6 flights that just arrived and long delays at passport control. There are some flights however that do arrive in quieter periods but for a lot of the day it's not uncommon for about 5-6 flights to start boarding at roughly the same time, and the same number to land at the same time and that is where the problem starts.
Unfortunately for years the airport has been growing at a rapid rate and the authorities in Poland have not wanted to invest in the airport despite the fact for some time it's been obvious that an expansion is needed. The area has huge potential for growth but its been suffocated by the terminal that is now far too small for it's needs. Ideally they need to increase the number of baggage belts to four, double the number of gates, increase the security channels and passport control officers as this is where the bottlenecks are.
Only now are the tenders going out for it to be built. and it was believed years ago that the terminal would be doubled in size already by now, but for various reasons, it was postponed many times and now they believe that 2015 is a more realistic date, which is a shame because the airports not going to be able to do much natural growth in that time. There is now also the fear that if LOT are given a 1.5bn zl bailout from the Polish government that they are looking for, this may impact other airports such as Krakow and Modlin, which it looks like will need an expansion in the next few years also.
But during the height of the summer from late morning to the evening it is always terribly busy, which led to temporary tents being errected to house passengers, there was even a huge waning message up on the Krakow website for most of the summer saying to allow much extra time for security as it could take at least an hour to clear.
I remember seeing about 18 flights go out between 8am and 10.30am one day when I was there and 10 were due to leave in the space of an hour. all it took was two of the earliest of those ten to be delayed and it was meltdown and a backlog of planes waiting for gates and way more passengers airside than the terminal could accommodate.
This of course then led to a few flights arriving at once which meant baggage was swamped with only the larger belt in use or about 5-6 flights that just arrived and long delays at passport control. There are some flights however that do arrive in quieter periods but for a lot of the day it's not uncommon for about 5-6 flights to start boarding at roughly the same time, and the same number to land at the same time and that is where the problem starts.
Unfortunately for years the airport has been growing at a rapid rate and the authorities in Poland have not wanted to invest in the airport despite the fact for some time it's been obvious that an expansion is needed. The area has huge potential for growth but its been suffocated by the terminal that is now far too small for it's needs. Ideally they need to increase the number of baggage belts to four, double the number of gates, increase the security channels and passport control officers as this is where the bottlenecks are.
Only now are the tenders going out for it to be built. and it was believed years ago that the terminal would be doubled in size already by now, but for various reasons, it was postponed many times and now they believe that 2015 is a more realistic date, which is a shame because the airports not going to be able to do much natural growth in that time. There is now also the fear that if LOT are given a 1.5bn zl bailout from the Polish government that they are looking for, this may impact other airports such as Krakow and Modlin, which it looks like will need an expansion in the next few years also.
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Have they had a change of heart and are going to base their aircraft at Alicante again next summer for such a early start
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From yle.fi:
Having read the newest comments in the press and on internet it seems that by doing so Ryanair is loosing friends in our country. As a result of the latest decisions Finland looks more and more like a deserted area on the European map of lo-co connections. Good for Finnair, good for SAS, but a bit weird from the FR point of view. Generally the flight tickets from Tampere were always significantly dearer than from many other destinations and LF excellent on most of the routes. Comes to mind sawing off the tree branch while sitting on it. But true, FR is sitting on many branches, so they can afford it. Adieu, Ryanair!
The no-frills airline is scrapping its service between Tampere, Edinburgh, Rome and Trapani while it’s reducing the number of flights to the city from Bremen and Budapest in a row over airport taxes.
The company said in a statement that it was transferring passengers and jobs out of Tampere and into another European low-cost airport where travellers aren't as heavily taxed.
Last month Ryanair said it was closing down its Turku routes due to airport fees. The company maintains it will keep services to both Turku and Tampere should aviation officials decide to reverse charges.
The company said in a statement that it was transferring passengers and jobs out of Tampere and into another European low-cost airport where travellers aren't as heavily taxed.
Last month Ryanair said it was closing down its Turku routes due to airport fees. The company maintains it will keep services to both Turku and Tampere should aviation officials decide to reverse charges.
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2 NEW ROUTES FROM CAGLIARI
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Nuove Rotte Ryanair da Cagliari : Oslo e Kaunas e cancellata la Cagliari – Siviglia. | Sardegna In Volo
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Nuove Rotte Ryanair da Cagliari : Oslo e Kaunas e cancellata la Cagliari – Siviglia. | Sardegna In Volo
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Any idea if Bournemouth will get any extra flights to Poland next summer the new flight to Wroclaw did very well with roughly mid 85 % load factors and the Spanish routes as always performed very well
Notice that at the moment though its exactly the same schedule and flight times as last summer but with no flights on sale to Rhodes
Notice that at the moment though its exactly the same schedule and flight times as last summer but with no flights on sale to Rhodes
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Racedo, you mentioned Louise Phelan, didn't mention Julie O’Neill. I don't know much about either, but irishtimes.com has noticed an interesting U-turn in the Ryanair management's attitudes.
The record of the Department of Transport in this country is one of mismanagement, incompetence, monopoly protectionism and damaging the consumer interest at every hand’s turn.
“The sooner this nest of incompetence and ineptitude is shut down the better.
“Alternatively, we should rename it DUMP (the Department for Useless Monopoly Protection).”
So said Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary at the Kenmare economic conference in October 2007.
Exactly one year later, his then colleague Jim Callaghan had this to say about the department and its use of consultants.
“The Department of Transport is now a by-word for incompetence and inefficiency,” he said.
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Who was secretary general of the department during both those years?
Julie O’Neill. The same Julie O’Neill who was appointed as a non-executive director of Ryanair yesterday.
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Bonderman was “delighted” that O’Neill and Louise Phelan of PayPal were joining the board of the airline.
“They bring significant skills, career success and experience to the board,” he added, without a hint of irony.
It’s a classic U-turn, even by Ryanair’s standards.
“The sooner this nest of incompetence and ineptitude is shut down the better.
“Alternatively, we should rename it DUMP (the Department for Useless Monopoly Protection).”
So said Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary at the Kenmare economic conference in October 2007.
Exactly one year later, his then colleague Jim Callaghan had this to say about the department and its use of consultants.
“The Department of Transport is now a by-word for incompetence and inefficiency,” he said.
/...
Who was secretary general of the department during both those years?
Julie O’Neill. The same Julie O’Neill who was appointed as a non-executive director of Ryanair yesterday.
/...
Bonderman was “delighted” that O’Neill and Louise Phelan of PayPal were joining the board of the airline.
“They bring significant skills, career success and experience to the board,” he added, without a hint of irony.
It’s a classic U-turn, even by Ryanair’s standards.