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[j636]

Ryanair passengers diverted to airport 200 miles away after pilot tells them it's too dark to land on Greek holiday island | Mail Online

I know its the daily mail but come on "to dark" to land

[840]

Thessaloniki seems a bit of an odd place to divert to if unable to land at Kefalonia.

There are many airports, which have a relationship with Ryanair, that are closer. Zakynthos and Patras must be less that 100km away, while Corfu, Volos and Kalamata all look like nearer options too.

[farci]

I'm just mere SLF - but shouldn't Ryanair know in advance there were night time restrictions at the destination airport?

[Charlie Roy]

Ryanair in Talks to Add Seven Spanish Cities as It Seeks Fee Cut - Bloomberg

Ryanair considering 737MAX7
Would they configure it with 150 seats (3 stewards needed, 1 for each 50 pax)?
Could be used on thinner routes, open up whole new markets...

[Sober Lark]

BBC Radio 4 reported today on Britain's youngest pilot accepted by Ryanair at age 19. Can't name him but congratulations.

The report on Ryanair diversion in The Mail is only a piece of toxic journalism written to serve their particular readership so for the vast majority of educated, self directed individuals, it is nothing to worry about.

[PAXboy]

Nothing new in here but it will be news to many regular pax.
Join Ryanair! See the world! But we're only paying you for nine months a year - Home News - UK - The Independent

[Channex258]

Originally Posted by PAXboy

Nothing new in here but it will be news to many regular pax.
Join Ryanair! See the world! But we're only paying you for nine months a year - Home News - UK - The Independent

I have first hand experience of being cabin crew for Ryanair, when I was first out of college at 18. In the interview they clearly outline all the charges up front ( €2200 all in from what I remember) you also get told the salary as well (€16 per block hour) I have friends at other LOCOs who aren't paid for being on the ground only airport standbys, so I assume this is standard practice.
I have no agenda against them I don't work for them anymore but I'm pretty neutral with them,If they're cheap il use em. a few friends are still there and happily flying on those terms.

Moral of the story read the T&C's before you hand your money over to them.

[pee]

I suspect that Ryanair would see their profits soar, if they just behaved with a modicum of respect towards its staff, customers & suppliers

Have to agree.

because much of what they do, they do well.

That's true as well.

That's why MOL is probably still the best possible CEO in the years to come. However, I think he should create a "face-lifting" department to improve the present image of the airline, get better press, more sympathy and indeed even more pax.

[PAXboy]

We all know that MoL won't change anything. That is not a criticism, just fact. He won't change anything because what he has done for 20 years has made them all millions. 99% of humans do not stop doing something that makes money - even to make more money.

That is why old companies eventually fail and why Woolworths and Pan Am are no longer around and politicians are another obvious example. Humans get very set in their ways.

Nothing will change until after MoLs time and even then it will take a big person to change the company protocols. I do not doubt that they could change now and make more money, but I don't think they can change now.

They might not even change in the future - but change will be forced upon them. By whom and what company, I cannot guess but the next generation of FR mgt will have to think the unthinkable.

[racedo]

if any Jurno out there wants to see what its like turn up with a hidden camera at any Ryanair airport check, its like a refugee camp, with people repacking, putting extra clothes on, falling out in lumps with staff,

Clearly you need to get out more and visit a refugee camp if you make such idiotic comments like that.

[racedo]

They might not even change in the future - but change will be forced upon them. By whom and what company, I cannot guess but the next generation of FR mgt will have to think the unthinkable.

The only constant that is clear in looking at how Ryanair operate is that change is pretty much continuous.

This is why I puzzle about people claiming "the unthinkable"..............what unthinkable is that ?

There are lots of people who desire the old days in Aviation as witnessed by the old Black and White movies or what they received in the 1980's................not many people want to pay for it though.

I have friends in various professions who ended up spending thousands to do MBA's / MSC or upskill into different areas. Even 1 who 15 years after attending medical school and running non medical family business spent £40k getting back into medical profession and now a GP.

The lets train people at company expense is something that has pretty much died across many industries over last 30 years. One only has to look at how apprenticeships have pretty much disappeared across whole swathes of UK industry. UK business relies on foreign trained professionals across many professions to make up for 30 years of short termism. Why should aviation be different ?

[BEagle]

You thought the attendants had it bad? Wait ?til you hear about Ryanair?s pilots - Home News - UK - The Independent



Did you get one of those memos, racedo?

Some of the comments on that news item are rather.....

[dublinaviator]

ffs nobody forces these guys to work for Ryanair, they should know what they're signing up for as it's there in black and white in the T&Cs. You wouldn't mind but these guys aren't exactly on a paltry wage either.

Fair play to Ray Conway, he called it as it is. This isn't about safety concerns. While Ryanair pilots are put under serious pressure to keep to a tight schedule, it is never to the point of compromising safety. This is just about a bunch of pilots not happy with their contract terms. Just as nobody forced them to join Ryanair, nobody's forcing them to stay...

[WOWBOY]

Sorry to be a pain but I have another question regarding ryanair.

When I check in online, it says in the terms and conditions I am charged £7 for printing out boarding passes per person one way. Really?!?! Paying to use my own printer?

And I assume I print off both passes for the outgoing and return flights.

[ScotsSLF]

There's no charge for printing off your own boarding passes. If you lose yours, or forget to print it off you will be charged at the airport.

[dublinaviator]

There is a charge for online check-in which is £7/€7. The boarding card reissue fee that you're referring to is £70/€70.

[WOWBOY]

Thanks guys for the info and clearing things up.

We only flying with ryanair as it was part of the offer from onthebeach. I for one won't be flying with them again its so much hassle and worry. Charges everywhere, for trivial things. Wishing we spent the extra money for the easyjet flight. would of ironically been cheaper after this £30 extra fees.

[racedo]

Thanks guys for the info and clearing things up.

We only flying with ryanair as it was part of the offer from onthebeach. I for one won't be flying with them again its so much hassle and worry. Charges everywhere, for trivial things. Wishing we spent the extra money for the easyjet flight. would of ironically been cheaper after this £30 extra fees.

Think your issue is with whom you booked with rather than Ryanair.

Happy to be corrected on this but I do not believe Onthebeach has a contract to sell Ryanair flights. Therefore anybody booking with resellers of flights (screenscrapers) run the risk of getting hit with extra charges.

There are any number of trip sites (not naming them) which review online booking sites and give views, onthebeach is mentioned on them.

Ryanair have always been clear that to get best fares then book with them.

[WOWBOY]

It's not the booking specifically, I have only read it on the ryanair site. Not in reference to my own booking.


However I have no read that ryanair don't permit third party bookings and don't have agreement with onthebeach. Now I'm really worried, as some reports are that rynaair cancel the booking if they see its booked via third party. This is why I hate it when my friend has booked it for us ahh.

I don't want to get to the airport to find we don't have a flight. It's in 2 weeks exactly .

Ryanair on ther behalf don't actually hide the fact you can have extra charges but onthebeach thing is quite worrying.

If they don't have contract what am I supposed to do?

[eu01]

@WOWBOY. Ironically, Ryanair has just stopped charging any "invisible" unavoidable fees during the booking process. Actually you can only become a "victim" of unwanted insurance or priority boarding fees (or alike) if you are not smart enough during the booking process (if you don't know how and when to say no). The online check-in fee is enclosed in the final price from the very beginning, at least while booking directly with them, so you have already payed it. Again, while booking directly.