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Old 4th Mar 2013, 12:54
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 12:58
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The report seems to say enough.

I can't for the life of me figure out what more has to be said unless useless what-if speculations
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 13:15
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So an un approved back track then...
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 13:22
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<<A Ryanair plane created some panic in the air traffic control tower>>

Nothing unusual there then. Air traffic controllers are rigorously trained to panic at the slightest excuse!
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 13:24
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Subject has been discussed for some time in the Ryanair 9 thread in AA&R.
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 13:26
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Nothing unusual there then. Air traffic controllers are rigorously trained to panic at the slightest excuse!
Especially when they're informed the coffee machine is empty!
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 13:28
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Nobody is immune from incidents of this kind - the question is how the airline handles them. A rock bottom third world airline, and Ryanair's legal department are at great pains to point out they are not one of them, would just sack the crew involved as a warning to others. They would make no effort to discover the thought processes involved in the crew and just punish them for bringing public embarrassment to an already under-pressure airline. A professional, high-quality airline, however, would debrief the crew at length and then retrain them to proficiency. Finally they would bring the lessons learnt to the attention of all the airline's other pilots to prevent a similar incident happening again. I am sure that Ryanair will adopt that line, as they are of course a very professional airline etc, etc.

As an interesting aside, readers may be interested in the following incident which shows how it can all go pear-shaped very quickly in low visibility conditions -
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 13:47
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As already mentioned a thread was started about this incident a week or so ago. Despite this being of an operational and safety related nature, it was quickly removed and buried in the "Airports Airlines and Routes" forum where few pilots (if any) would see it as this is mainly a forum where mostly non pilots talk about new routes etc. There wasn't even the usual pointer / note to say where it had been moved to.

Expect the same of this thread soon ......
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 13:54
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@Alexander de Merkaat: Nice exposition but sadly I don't believe this is going to happen quite as you explain. As Ryanairs Public Relations department is at great pains to explain, they are a low cost airline always aiming to provide to the needs of their customer base (also: to provide for the basest needs of their customers ). Nothing increases the sensation of safety in these uninformed minds that the pilots have ben drawn, quartered and hung for their crimes... or in modern times they have been instantly fired.

Sad indeed
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 13:58
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I can't for the life of me figure out what more has to be said unless useless what-if speculations
What if speculations are not useless. They save souls...
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 14:04
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What an interesting animation ADM !
Those ATC guys are under great pressure.
What a wonderful reaction from US2998 too ... The tower must have felt so bad afterwards.
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 14:08
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Originally Posted by Aldente
it was quickly removed and buried in the "Airports Airlines and Routes" forum where few pilots (if any) would see it
Like you I am incredulous. For those who wish to play 'hunt the needle' it is in the Ryanair thread there. Pick it up around post #600.

Any ideas what constitutes a 'Rumour or News' nowadays?
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 14:14
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Meerkat you obviously never worked for a Big Airline.
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 15:25
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Meerkats present employer has over 200 aircraft, what makes a big airline?
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Old 5th Mar 2013, 07:05
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Could not agree more with meerkat
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Old 5th Mar 2013, 16:36
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NATS Statistics Confirm Ryanair Is One Of The UK's Most Safety?

Ryanair Feb Traffic Down 3%

They have included that last year was a leap year and that counted for 3 of the 6% fall in passengers.

There LF increased 1% but they don't put that down to one less that flying than in 2012....
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Old 5th Mar 2013, 18:06
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To add to this anything anti-ryanair has been removed.
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Old 5th Mar 2013, 20:01
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To add to this anything anti-ryanair has been removed.
You live in dreamland if you think that is the case.
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Old 11th Mar 2013, 16:42
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More problems for FR as Budapest Airport are taking them to court.

Airport in legal action against Ryanair over alleged debt - Independent.ie

Looks like the STN cuts may of just being a big PR spin.
Ryanair accused of 'bullish' tactics with threat to cut flights | This is Essex

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Old 11th Mar 2013, 16:53
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You live in dreamland if you think that is the case.
Like yourself then?
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