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Old 24th Sep 2015, 17:57
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Years ago ez had a LPL-LTN & Blackpool-LTN daily schedule perfect for commuters. Beat the train on price and time. Both were axed. Pax complained. Nowt. Perhaps the trains have improved, but for me a train trip with reserved seat beats an a/c everyday. The airport hassle alone is bypassed, oH deep joy.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 19:10
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MAN-STN

Out of interest when Eastern operated the Stansted route in July 2005 they carried 1533 passenger. By 2006 the route had been taken over by Air Berlin and the passenger throughput went up to 9332. Thereafter the figures started to trail off, however I do not have full records beyond 2007 at the present time.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 19:49
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C'mon people. You all know that Stansted is a runway in agricultural area with low population density. Much of the passenger base uses STN as a transit point while travelling to or from London.

In the early 2000s the railway line between Euston, the Midlands and North West England was either lousy or undergoing major engineering works which translated into often slow or delayed trains. The bulk of the work finished in 2006 with the last bits substantially complete by 2008. Unless offering this as a proper connecting flight, flying passengers between the south east and Liverpool / Manchester is going to really struggle post 2008.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 20:10
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Please a runway in an Agracultural area yawn yawn yawn.

The price of a train from my town Colchester to Manchester is discussing
And the journey consists of a drive into town to the station that can take
30 mins the same time it takes to get to STN then there is a 50 min train journey to Liverpool Street then a tube ride to Euston by this point you have already spent approx 40 now onto the train at Euston I can already be at the departure gat at STN must go on I know the route would be used because the same was said about Newcastle and to an extent Glasgow and Edinburgh both easy reached by rail the point is rail is far to expensive in this country and air travel is very cheap.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 20:29
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You are all correct but really this should be in the STN thread.

Actually, for the purposes of a route to MAN then yes STN is a runway in the open countryside. But, as it's outside of 'London' there is a catchment for whom train travel isn't so quick.

Eastern, BA and Manx served the need well, and it ticked along for years with modest numbers paying extortionate fares for the privilege. As noted along came AB with fares a fraction of the price and the timings were pretty good. Of course, Eastern didn't stand a chance. However, the loads weren't spectacular as I recall, and that was with feed to the German routes. It didn't last, and when Eastern returned folk were less willing to fork out having been used to paying 40-80, not 250-500.
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Old 25th Sep 2015, 05:52
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Ryanair AGM at Dublin airport yesterday they publically reiterated they have abandoned all plans to develop a transatlantic service and instead are choosing to further expand services within Europe.

Sorry no link - awaiting AGM transcript.
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Old 25th Sep 2015, 07:07
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I'd be surprised if there was a plan for TATL.
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Old 27th Sep 2015, 18:25
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New routes for EDI and GLA probably be announced early in the week.
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Old 27th Sep 2015, 20:18
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Anyone know when Ryanair will launch SNN/ORK-BCN in response to Norwegian on the route?
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Old 27th Sep 2015, 21:53
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Website has a NQY destination page:

https://www.ryanair.com/en/flights-to-newquay/

Does this mean a return is in the offing?
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 07:39
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and combine the rumours to GLA-NQY !
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 09:03
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Why do RYR & ez shun the Channel Islands? If they think there's money to be made from the middle of no-where NQY why not Jersey & Guernsey? Surely the islands have sufficient demand both ways.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 09:18
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I would guess that the runways are too short for comfort. That is certainly the case at Guernsey and I would guess marginal at Jersey, especially given the weather - doable on a dry runway with a reasonable load but definitely not wet. DTM is the shortest LDA FR goes into, and that is sporting enough with 1700m.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 09:48
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Jersey

EasyJet run a daily LPL - JER.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 10:09
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Presumably as A319 is substantially smaller it is more suited to short runways like these.
FR pulled out of Belfast City because the runway was too restrictive to takeoff performance, and thats over 100m longer than Jersey. At least with DTM, 2000m is available for takeoff.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 11:35
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We'll see what MOLs visit to Scotland tomorrow brings apart from the usual bolsch and bravado!
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 13:01
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
We'll see what MOLs visit to Scotland tomorrow brings apart from the usual bolsch and bravado!
Any speculation bar Newquay? GLA could certainly do with a Scandinavian route. How long ago did the GOT-PIK route get canned?

I suspect any new routes will be city routes, keeping the sunshine lot at PIK.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 13:56
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Doubt we'll see GLA - NQY just seemed a coincidence. FR could provide BRU, Paris, Frankfurt, MAD all easily with good returns ex GLA I would imagine. Hopefully not sunshine routes or yet more Eastern European...
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 14:13
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They will obviously consider how any expansion will affect services at EDI, so its hard to speculate.

GLA is well covered in Eastern Europe now with Ryanair moving in last year and the arrival of Wizz. Not sure what is left of the market there.
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Old 29th Sep 2015, 15:06
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Nothing major for GLA/PIK then it seems which is a surprise! Just Berlin continuing into the summer season (as if it wasn't going to!) and an extra flight a week to Riga.
PIK supposedly has extra flights to PSA, but PSA was 2 weekly this summer too so I don't quite understand that announcement. In any case, PIK does actually appear to have lost CFU for next summer.
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