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Old 18th Sep 2015, 18:38
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Big newspaper article about MOL trying to cosy up to KLM for a feeder link. This has been broached with BA as well, as discussed on here. "Whatever next"? said Red Riding Hood to the Fox.
Who needs whom more ?

Ryanair heading in excess of 100 million passengers and on course to make 1 this year where as KLM is part of Air France............nuff said.
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Old 18th Sep 2015, 20:25
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KLM makes profit and wants to dump AF. I would have thought, if KLM wants an LoCo external feeder, they would go to ez. All very hypothetical and very much wait & see, & out of our influence.
I wonder why everybody trumpets RYR profits. If I read the figures correctly ez makes more profit per a/c than RYR, but no-one trumpets that. Am I wrong?
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Old 18th Sep 2015, 21:11
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Originally Posted by RAT 5 View Post
KLM makes profit and wants to dump AF. I would have thought, if KLM wants an LoCo external feeder, they would go to ez. All very hypothetical and very much wait & see, & out of our influence.
AF own KLM so KLM has bugger all influence of what AF do.

I wonder why everybody trumpets RYR profits. If I read the figures correctly ez makes more profit per a/c than RYR, but no-one trumpets that. Am I wrong?
Easyjet Fares are 38% higher than Ryanair
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Old 19th Sep 2015, 12:21
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Ryanair heading in excess of 100 million passengers and on course to make 1 this year where as KLM is part of Air France............nuff said.
Would be time to make drastic changes if that forecast is correct

Easyjet Fares are 38% higher than Ryanair
28% according latest FR data however it's a numbers game and very easy for anybody to present them to make one side seem more appealing.
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Old 19th Sep 2015, 12:43
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Originally Posted by Jamie2k9 View Post
Would be time to make drastic changes if that forecast is correct



28% according latest FR data however it's a numbers game and very easy for anybody to present them to make one side seem more appealing.
Ouch on 1 but I was correct on fares as I said Easyjet 38% higher than Ryanair (78/56), their claim is 28% lower than Easyjet which is also correct.
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Old 19th Sep 2015, 13:03
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There are 'fares' & 'fares'. Is it apples & apples? That debate has been had many times between many carriers. I often fly a national carrier. Often its final paid price with luggage is cheaper than a LoCo from the same area, not necessarily airport. e.g. the final price is 120 national & 150 Loco. Not too much if convenience might dictate the higher fare. But, I'm then astounded, when clicking on 'fare details' of the national to see the 'ticket fare' is as low as 30. The add ons are security, pax tax, environment tax, ATC charges, airport xyz, etc. etc. In that case even the ticket fare was cheaper than the LoCo which started life at say 90. The LoCo price breakdown only publishes the add ons charged by the airline after you've bought the ticket. What puzzles me is that the ticket is sometimes, not this occasion, cheaper than the mandatory add-ons charged by the airport. How can that be???? Surely every carrier has to pay the local charges equally?
Thus it is still all a mystery and finding apples & apples is not easy. It still comes down to the final charges on the credit card.
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Old 19th Sep 2015, 16:50
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Old 19th Sep 2015, 16:52
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I was correct on fares as I said Easyjet 38% higher than Ryanair (78/56), their claim is 28% lower than Easyjet which is also correct
Fair enough suppose lots of ways to look at it.

But, I'm then astounded, when clicking on 'fare details' of the national to see the 'ticket fare' is as low as 30. The add ons are security, pax tax, environment tax, ATC charges, airport xyz, etc. etc. In that case even the ticket fare was cheaper than the LoCo which started life at say 90. The LoCo price breakdown only publishes the add ons charged by the airline after you've bought the ticket. What puzzles me is that the ticket is sometimes, not this occasion, cheaper than the mandatory add-ons charged by the airport. How can that be???? Surely every carrier has to pay the local charges equally?
Generally yes but airport costs vary for gates/a-bridges/aircraft/terminal in some cases, time on ground etc.

It's really based on how you display the fee's to customers. FR have displayed the taxes previously but then loco's sort of moved to a single fare which flag carriers had but also allow a more detailed breakdown.

In some cases it's not practical to change passengers full fee's etc on every single route. UK-IE traffic would be a good example.
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Old 19th Sep 2015, 20:34
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If what you say is correct then you have proved my point. The pax is only interested in the final price; i.e. the charge on the credit card. However, the PR for the airlines is to promote that they are the cheapest fare. Apples and any fruit you care to mention, but rarely the same. True for all carriers. There are too many quirks. Buyer beware.
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 12:49
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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 11:16
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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 18:00
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Anyone with connections know what Ryanairs plans are for City of Derry Airport EGAE/LDY for summer 2016?
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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 18:51
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Still hoping they add a few more from Newcastle
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Old 23rd Sep 2015, 23:09
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Nowt yet for 2016 to GRO from EMA/BHX (non expected) or from BRS.
Don't tell me that Stanstead will be the only airport between London and MAN offering that route?
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 09:38
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I wish Ryanair would introduce a MAN - STN service
I'm sure a deal is there to be had
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 18:41
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It's STANSTED NOT STANSTEAD!
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 18:57
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Years ago ez had a LPL-LTN & Blackpool-LTN daily schedule perfect for commuters. Beat the train on price and time. Both were axed. Pax complained. Nowt. Perhaps the trains have improved, but for me a train trip with reserved seat beats an a/c everyday. The airport hassle alone is bypassed, oH deep joy.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 20:10
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MAN-STN

Out of interest when Eastern operated the Stansted route in July 2005 they carried 1533 passenger. By 2006 the route had been taken over by Air Berlin and the passenger throughput went up to 9332. Thereafter the figures started to trail off, however I do not have full records beyond 2007 at the present time.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 20:49
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C'mon people. You all know that Stansted is a runway in agricultural area with low population density. Much of the passenger base uses STN as a transit point while travelling to or from London.

In the early 2000s the railway line between Euston, the Midlands and North West England was either lousy or undergoing major engineering works which translated into often slow or delayed trains. The bulk of the work finished in 2006 with the last bits substantially complete by 2008. Unless offering this as a proper connecting flight, flying passengers between the south east and Liverpool / Manchester is going to really struggle post 2008.
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 21:10
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Please a runway in an Agracultural area yawn yawn yawn.

The price of a train from my town Colchester to Manchester is discussing
And the journey consists of a drive into town to the station that can take
30 mins the same time it takes to get to STN then there is a 50 min train journey to Liverpool Street then a tube ride to Euston by this point you have already spent approx 40 now onto the train at Euston I can already be at the departure gat at STN must go on I know the route would be used because the same was said about Newcastle and to an extent Glasgow and Edinburgh both easy reached by rail the point is rail is far to expensive in this country and air travel is very cheap.
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