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Ever hear of Norweigen Air Shuttle? They were the first LCC on transatlantic.
Ever hear of Laker Airways?
Big newspaper article about MOL trying to cosy up to KLM for a feeder link. This has been broached with BA as well, as discussed on here. "Whatever next"? said Red Riding Hood to the Fox.
Ever hear of Laker Airways?
Big newspaper article about MOL trying to cosy up to KLM for a feeder link. This has been broached with BA as well, as discussed on here. "Whatever next"? said Red Riding Hood to the Fox.
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WEst Jet have been flying T/A for the last two years, started with Dublin last year and now Edinburgh this year.
Ryanair heading in excess of 100 million passengers and on course to make €1 this year where as KLM is part of Air France............nuff said.
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KLM makes profit and wants to dump AF. I would have thought, if KLM wants an LoCo external feeder, they would go to ez. All very hypothetical and very much wait & see, & out of our influence.
I wonder why everybody trumpets RYR profits. If I read the figures correctly ez makes more profit per a/c than RYR, but no-one trumpets that. Am I wrong?
I wonder why everybody trumpets RYR profits. If I read the figures correctly ez makes more profit per a/c than RYR, but no-one trumpets that. Am I wrong?
I wonder why everybody trumpets RYR profits. If I read the figures correctly ez makes more profit per a/c than RYR, but no-one trumpets that. Am I wrong?
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Ryanair heading in excess of 100 million passengers and on course to make €1 this year where as KLM is part of Air France............nuff said.
Easyjet Fares are 38% higher than Ryanair
Ouch on 1 but I was correct on fares as I said Easyjet 38% higher than Ryanair (78/56), their claim is 28% lower than Easyjet which is also correct.
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There are 'fares' & 'fares'. Is it apples & apples? That debate has been had many times between many carriers. I often fly a national carrier. Often its final paid price with luggage is cheaper than a LoCo from the same area, not necessarily airport. e.g. the final price is €120 national & €150 Loco. Not too much if convenience might dictate the higher fare. But, I'm then astounded, when clicking on 'fare details' of the national to see the 'ticket fare' is as low as €30. The add ons are security, pax tax, environment tax, ATC charges, airport xyz, etc. etc. In that case even the ticket fare was cheaper than the LoCo which started life at say €90. The LoCo price breakdown only publishes the add ons charged by the airline after you've bought the ticket. What puzzles me is that the ticket is sometimes, not this occasion, cheaper than the mandatory add-ons charged by the airport. How can that be???? Surely every carrier has to pay the local charges equally?
Thus it is still all a mystery and finding apples & apples is not easy. It still comes down to the final charges on the credit card.
Thus it is still all a mystery and finding apples & apples is not easy. It still comes down to the final charges on the credit card.
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I was correct on fares as I said Easyjet 38% higher than Ryanair (78/56), their claim is 28% lower than Easyjet which is also correct
But, I'm then astounded, when clicking on 'fare details' of the national to see the 'ticket fare' is as low as €30. The add ons are security, pax tax, environment tax, ATC charges, airport xyz, etc. etc. In that case even the ticket fare was cheaper than the LoCo which started life at say €90. The LoCo price breakdown only publishes the add ons charged by the airline after you've bought the ticket. What puzzles me is that the ticket is sometimes, not this occasion, cheaper than the mandatory add-ons charged by the airport. How can that be???? Surely every carrier has to pay the local charges equally?
It's really based on how you display the fee's to customers. FR have displayed the taxes previously but then loco's sort of moved to a single fare which flag carriers had but also allow a more detailed breakdown.
In some cases it's not practical to change passengers full fee's etc on every single route. UK-IE traffic would be a good example.
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If what you say is correct then you have proved my point. The pax is only interested in the final price; i.e. the charge on the credit card. However, the PR for the airlines is to promote that they are the cheapest fare. Apples and any fruit you care to mention, but rarely the same. True for all carriers. There are too many quirks. Buyer beware.
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