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Connecting at LPL
It would be great if FLYBE and Easyjet passengers transferring from Belfast and IOM could connect airside, instead of having to walk half a mile around the airport and face another queue at LPL security, and a second pat-down in the space of under an hour.
Now that really would improve the customer experience. But I'm not holding my breath.
Now that really would improve the customer experience. But I'm not holding my breath.
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It was only its first month with 134 flights planned, Which gives it 36.5 per flight or 47% ,They must be reasonably pleased with the start as they have upped the schedule for the summer.
It will be fine.
It will be fine.
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Connecting at LPL
It would be great if FLYBE and Easyjet passengers transferring from Belfast and IOM could connect airside, instead of having to walk half a mile around the airport and face another queue at LPL security, and a second pat-down in the space of under an hour.
Now that really would improve the customer experience. But I'm not holding my breath.
It would be great if FLYBE and Easyjet passengers transferring from Belfast and IOM could connect airside, instead of having to walk half a mile around the airport and face another queue at LPL security, and a second pat-down in the space of under an hour.
Now that really would improve the customer experience. But I'm not holding my breath.
I have just entered IOM-AMS 10 Oct and the flybe.com website reported this option via LPL: Dep 09:20 Arr 14:20 BE603, BE1293
Airside transfer would be a wonderful improvement
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Good news about aer lingus starting Dublin route, management at lpl are doing good work in terms of new routes and extensions from all operating airlines lpl has great potential with aer lingus and the onward connections to the USA
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It`s going to be a bloodbath EI 2 daily and FR 4 daily in LPL
plus both EI and FR upto 6 daily ex MAN and BHX, that is a lot of capacity
to fill
April this year was LPL 27285, MAN 67656, BHX 64552 and LBA 25394
so 185000 approx in 1 month from 4 airports and another 62000 approx seats added amonth this winter WOW
Ian
plus both EI and FR upto 6 daily ex MAN and BHX, that is a lot of capacity
to fill
April this year was LPL 27285, MAN 67656, BHX 64552 and LBA 25394
so 185000 approx in 1 month from 4 airports and another 62000 approx seats added amonth this winter WOW
Ian
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I tend to agree with you, Ian.
Interesting to look at the 5 year trend though:
Liverpool. 2009 283k. 2014 276k.
Manchester 2009 655k. 2014 756k.
Liverpool (no competition) net loss of 7k.
Manchester (both Aer Lingus and Ryanair in competition) net gain 101k.
Note that Ryanair is due to operate less LPL- DUB flights in either June or July than in February. In part that may be due to less football traffic.....but it does look odd.
Interesting to look at the 5 year trend though:
Liverpool. 2009 283k. 2014 276k.
Manchester 2009 655k. 2014 756k.
Liverpool (no competition) net loss of 7k.
Manchester (both Aer Lingus and Ryanair in competition) net gain 101k.
Note that Ryanair is due to operate less LPL- DUB flights in either June or July than in February. In part that may be due to less football traffic.....but it does look odd.
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Liverpool. 2009 283k. 2014 276k.
While I get that there are direct ferries Dublin Liverpool, the frequency of flights on the route have always surprised me. Aer Lingus will be challenged for every passenger on this route as they were in their last attempt on the route. While the point to point traffic will be challenging, they must surely have crunched the numbers on the transatlantic piece ex LPL and in comparison to other routes for EIR like LBA BRS CWL etc. so my guess is that they will on balance make this work.... if not then surely EIR will be called in on what can be a more sustainable footing from a cost perspective.
When do the 319's leave the fleet?? Is the date confirmed?
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FR are rather exposed in today's Echo. They have announced increases in frequency as noted above, citing overwhelming demand. However, the Echo notes that frequency has been reduced to 2 per day for June and July when demand in summer months should be greater. Note that these flights aren't at the most convenient times either (return to LPL due in at 23.00). Note that MAN retains 4/5 per day frequency throughout June and July........competition does tend to concentrate the mind!
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I wouldn't get too excited at the prospect of the mythical pre-clearance facility at Dublin. I have tried it once, having believed all the hype. and I didn't really see much benefit TBH.
Once you have an ESTA and are not using it for the first time, immigration at the US's main airports is now becoming a doddle. Or if you're Global Entry registered it's an even bigger doddle.
The people who will benefit most are the one-off point to point tourists who are looking for the absolute bargain bucket fares - and for that try the non-stops from Thomas Cook from your local airport.
If you're a returning ESTA or Global Entry ie a regular (read higher yield) pax, you'd be mad to go through Dublin.
Once you have an ESTA and are not using it for the first time, immigration at the US's main airports is now becoming a doddle. Or if you're Global Entry registered it's an even bigger doddle.
The people who will benefit most are the one-off point to point tourists who are looking for the absolute bargain bucket fares - and for that try the non-stops from Thomas Cook from your local airport.
If you're a returning ESTA or Global Entry ie a regular (read higher yield) pax, you'd be mad to go through Dublin.
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I use the US GOES ('Global Entry' facility NEXUS) and find the DUB USBPA pre-clearance at Dublin to be a very convenient service. Instead of waiting in a long, time consuming line-up at a US gateway airport, then having to get to the domestic terminal, praying your bags have made it also and worrying about them the rest of the journey, I am in the area I need to be to make that connection. Remember, your bags will not be boarded until you are confirmed admitted to the USA. And your description of the acceptance and admittance by emigration procedure, at the gateway airport, as being a "doddle" does seem a little fanciful, in my experience. It isn't even a "doddle" using NEXUS facility on land crossing where there is a separate vehicle lane and entry booth.
PS: The one-offs travelling on ABC's won't likely care about pre-clearance, not having, for the most part, to concern themselves with on-ward connections.
PS: The one-offs travelling on ABC's won't likely care about pre-clearance, not having, for the most part, to concern themselves with on-ward connections.
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May passenger figures up 7.5% on previous year
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RE: Dublin US pre-clearance facility:
I was just enjoying a conversation over coffee and a donut with a management employee of the USCBPA. I was asking about the pre-clearance of airline passengers at foreign departure points. She told me that it is the airline(s) who pay for this service and, it is, for the most part, regular scheduled carriers with extensive interline or code sharing agreements and many onward travelling passengers who benefit the most from the procedure. They (airlines) schedule closer arrival and departure times, due to the pre-clearance of connecting of both passengers and their baggage. Charter type passengers wouldn't benefit much from the system and, the airlines they use wouldn't want to pay the extra fee for giving their customers this extra service.
The cost doesn't just entail the USCBPA having an area at an airport but also their accommodation in the foreign country and, believe it or not, the salary of the agents + out of pocket expenses for same and all re-location costs. The US government will accommodate most requests for "off-shore" clearance but, won't pay for it.
I was just enjoying a conversation over coffee and a donut with a management employee of the USCBPA. I was asking about the pre-clearance of airline passengers at foreign departure points. She told me that it is the airline(s) who pay for this service and, it is, for the most part, regular scheduled carriers with extensive interline or code sharing agreements and many onward travelling passengers who benefit the most from the procedure. They (airlines) schedule closer arrival and departure times, due to the pre-clearance of connecting of both passengers and their baggage. Charter type passengers wouldn't benefit much from the system and, the airlines they use wouldn't want to pay the extra fee for giving their customers this extra service.
The cost doesn't just entail the USCBPA having an area at an airport but also their accommodation in the foreign country and, believe it or not, the salary of the agents + out of pocket expenses for same and all re-location costs. The US government will accommodate most requests for "off-shore" clearance but, won't pay for it.
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Flybe increase both BHD and IOM by 1 daily flight each this winter.
Good to see the 2 north west airports bounce back to such great levels. I suspect the level of growth LPL is starting to see again should help it bounce back to the 5m mark reasonably quickly.
Its particularly encouraging that LPL now has a good range of airlines now, rather tan solely reliant on wizz/Ryanair and Easyjet.While the latter 2 are still the dominant carriers, I suspect that LPL is no longer held to ransom by them like in the past.
Good to see the 2 north west airports bounce back to such great levels. I suspect the level of growth LPL is starting to see again should help it bounce back to the 5m mark reasonably quickly.
Its particularly encouraging that LPL now has a good range of airlines now, rather tan solely reliant on wizz/Ryanair and Easyjet.While the latter 2 are still the dominant carriers, I suspect that LPL is no longer held to ransom by them like in the past.
Whilst the portfolio of airlines has increased, the percentage of total weekly departures is still overwhelmingly skewed towards EZY and FR. I think your comment is a little premature.
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For Winter 15/16 roughly 70% of weekly flights will be by U2 or FR so quite sizeable. However this is down from around 85% for W14/15. The two major carrier's programmes are of similar size to last winter so the drop in overall share is testament to the good work being done by the New management team.
