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Looks like East Midlands will be a fair bit bigger than Liverpool next summer and even Leeds/Bradford looks as if it's going to be busier as well!!!
LPL will be way down this year on 2011, but it looks like FR are looking to replace some capacity easyjet have pulled in 2013 so there should at least be some stability if not growth on this year.
Would that be a first or has LBA been bigger than LPL before (in terms of take-offs and landing with passenger traffic)???[/
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The winter schedules are slightly busier at Liverpool than East Midlands.
Currently, exlcuding Ryanair (which is the only airline at both airports which has not yet finalise it's summer 2013 schedules) East Midlands has close to 50 departures on the weekdays and about 35-40 on the weekends whilst Liverpool sits at 30 maximum for all days of the week (EasyJet are slighlty down in 2013 at LPL with one less aircraft than 2012). As Ryanair will have a very similar amount at both airports with about 20-20 daily departures, and as far as I know EMA will be marginally larger than LPL which is a first then EMA will have about 70 odd departures on the weekdays and about 55 on the weekends and Liverpool will be around 50-55 every day.
EMA is much quiter on the weekends because FlyBe do a lot less flights and BMI Regional and Eastern do not fly at all on Saturdays and only have 1 or 2 on Sundays. Basically, East Midlands will be above Liverpool next year without question, and we are even expecting more growth by BMI Regional so it may be even higher for EMA.
As LBA, they are about 50-55 departures on the weekdays without Ryanair, so would expect maybe 65 departures in total once they are included. Not so sure about weekends though, but again would expect them to be much quieter than the weekdays. Although 10 more departures a day from LBA than LPL on most days, LBA has a lot more smaller aircraft such as Embraers, Fokkers and Dash 8's so not sure whether they will overtake!
Currently, exlcuding Ryanair (which is the only airline at both airports which has not yet finalise it's summer 2013 schedules) East Midlands has close to 50 departures on the weekdays and about 35-40 on the weekends whilst Liverpool sits at 30 maximum for all days of the week (EasyJet are slighlty down in 2013 at LPL with one less aircraft than 2012). As Ryanair will have a very similar amount at both airports with about 20-20 daily departures, and as far as I know EMA will be marginally larger than LPL which is a first then EMA will have about 70 odd departures on the weekdays and about 55 on the weekends and Liverpool will be around 50-55 every day.
EMA is much quiter on the weekends because FlyBe do a lot less flights and BMI Regional and Eastern do not fly at all on Saturdays and only have 1 or 2 on Sundays. Basically, East Midlands will be above Liverpool next year without question, and we are even expecting more growth by BMI Regional so it may be even higher for EMA.
As LBA, they are about 50-55 departures on the weekdays without Ryanair, so would expect maybe 65 departures in total once they are included. Not so sure about weekends though, but again would expect them to be much quieter than the weekdays. Although 10 more departures a day from LBA than LPL on most days, LBA has a lot more smaller aircraft such as Embraers, Fokkers and Dash 8's so not sure whether they will overtake!
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LPL will be closer to at least 60 departures a day average. It's not the departures that count it's the passenger numbers and as around 95% of Liverpool's traffic is with aircraft of an average passenger capacity of 176 the capacity is greater.
And as Leeds was below 3 million last year and Liverpool was above 5 million they've got some way to go.
Plus, the summer schedule is NOT complete yet, especially not Ryanair's. We're expecting new routes from at least one airline.
And as Leeds was below 3 million last year and Liverpool was above 5 million they've got some way to go.
Plus, the summer schedule is NOT complete yet, especially not Ryanair's. We're expecting new routes from at least one airline.
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Also remember that East Midlands does also have 757's and A321's, which are larger than what are seen in Liverpool. I agree, I don't think Leeds will over take, but East Midlands will in 2013, probably not this year! East Midlands is growing a bit and Liverpool has recently been sharply falling so although 2011 was LPL 5.2 million passengers and EMA 4.2 million, in 2012 that will be more LPL between 4.0 to 4.5 million at best (KLM and Eastern Airways pull out, cut backs by FlyBe, EasyJet and Ryanair have combined to large declines) and EMA 4.0 million. By 2013 I'd expect EMA to be in the mid 4 millions and Liverpool to be about 4 million on the dot. Yes I know that Ryanair will be growing, but easyJet will cut back and KLM were in LPL for the first 3 months of 2012, so even their pull out will still effect the 2013 statistics.
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Wizz
LJLA have today singed a five year deal with Wizz air,which will increase their presence at Liverpool with more destinations to eastern Europe and poss Russia later.
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Good news as another new route to be announced.
As it looks like low cost airline Norwegian will commence a new 3x weekly Copenhagen - Liverpool route from April 5th 2013
As it looks like low cost airline Norwegian will commence a new 3x weekly Copenhagen - Liverpool route from April 5th 2013
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from their website
It has been expected that the Norwegian budget airline Norwegian had little good to the Danish traffic program for the summer of 2013. It is indeed the case, as the company today announced six new routes from Copenhagen Airport to commence in early April and late June.
Among the six new routes are three unserved destinations, respectively Liverpool, Montpellier and Corfu. Especially route to Liverpool is interesting because it gives football happy Danes to travel directly to Mereseyside-town.
It has been expected that the Norwegian budget airline Norwegian had little good to the Danish traffic program for the summer of 2013. It is indeed the case, as the company today announced six new routes from Copenhagen Airport to commence in early April and late June.
Among the six new routes are three unserved destinations, respectively Liverpool, Montpellier and Corfu. Especially route to Liverpool is interesting because it gives football happy Danes to travel directly to Mereseyside-town.
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Some more routes to come from Ryanair, may well be new year before they're announced though.
Any hints, or is it conjecture at the moment?
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The timetables still don't seem right yet at virtually any airport. I think there is still going to be another series of rejigging timetables before the summer season actually commences, we've had alot of changes recently and based on previous years, there always does seem to be 2 major series of shifting flight times so that will probably sort out the gaps in the timetables. It may still be possible though, going back to the possible new bases in Morocco, Liverpool may be a new destination from there? We will have to wait and see what happens.
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Ryanair
After having looked at the ryanair schedules recently, there are some massive gaps in the schedules so we can probably expect some new routes and/or more frequency increases. Does anyone know anything?
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