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[AndyH52]

KLM

Highwideandugly. According to stats in the Friends of Liverpool Airport magazine (09/27) KLM carried 129,000 pax in 2010 and 124,000 in 2011 between LPL and Amsterdam. Of course passenger numbers are only part of the picture - yields will be an important factor and at DTV you have the 'benefit' of no competition on the route so yields may not be too bad.

[EI-BUD]

In terms of KLM at Liverpool, yes yield will be an important indicator , but other factors like proportion of transfer pax feeding into long haul at AMS will be relevant and also factors such as impact to neighbouring MAN AMS route which is of significant scale .

[Ringwayman]

this is where it's a pity the CAA stats don't break down per airline per route:

Liverpool-Amsterdam (and vice-versa)

2009 288875
2010 344921
2011 339777
2012 246467

[Cleared For A Coffee]

Passenger numbers up 5% in January. This following December 2013's 2% rise.

New Year traffic growth continues for LJLA - Liverpool John Lennon Airport

[airadio]

not forgetting the number of diverts last month that would make up a big slice of that 5% if not more

[TSR2]

Passenger numbers up 5% in January

Lets hope the upward trend continues.

[AndyH52]

airadio, having just checked the January review for Liverpool, there was a grand total of two diversions in January (three if you want to be picky and include a Kingair 350). Those two diverts were EZY A.319s, so 312 pax at most, as opposed to a 5% increase on the 2013 figure of 240k which should come to around 12,000. Still, why let a bit of good news change your general attitude towards LPL...

[Ringwayman]

Diversions aren't normally counted for an airport's monthly total - the CAA "allocates" those passengers to the airport they should have landed.

[Charlie Roy]

Diversions aren't normally counted for an airport's monthly total - the CAA "allocates" those passengers to the airport they should have landed.

Whatever made you think that?

[Mouser]

diverts last month that would make up a big slice of that 5% if not more

, airadio THINK!

[Mouser]

12,000 that's roughly 76 A319's, this January. Jesus Christ roughly 39% of Easyjets fleet or 2.5 A319's every day through the whole of January.

[Ringwayman]

Whatever made you think that?

Quite possibly because that is what the CAA says at the bottom of the PDF

"(6) In order to preserve market analysis all identifiable diversions are reallocated to the point of intended operation."

[Suzeman]

Quite possibly because that is what the CAA says at the bottom of the PDF

"(6) In order to preserve market analysis all identifiable diversions are reallocated to the point of intended operation."

That applies to their route analysis in Table 12.1.

But does it also apply to their overall totals as shown in Table 9? Don't see a qualifying note there.

https://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airpor...ransit_Pax.pdf

[Shed-on-a-Pole]

A very bizarre first post from you there, GaelForce. What offence has been committed by these two contributors to justify a ban? The news items they have posted / discussed may not make happy reading but they are factually correct. Is this a problem for you? And what is your evidence as a new poster on the site to suggest that these two well-established contributors are one and the same person?

Please tell us which sites they have been banned from. I'll be sure to avoid them if they permit only happy-clappy (as opposed to balanced) contributions.

[PPRuNe Pop]

Get back on topic please. No witch hunts.

PPP

[Cleared For A Coffee]

Thomas Cook Scandinavia to operate charter flights from LJLA - Liverpool John Lennon Airport

Flights appear to be on the weekend of Liverpool vs Chelsea.

[GrahamK]

Iberia are to operate 4 charter flights from Valladolid to LPL using A321s on 29th April, 13th May, 27th May and 10th June. Any idea who is chartering these flights? Is there a lot of Beatles fans in that neck of the woods? Or possibly cruise charters?

[lplsprog]

Spanish students charters we understand.

[Cleared For A Coffee]

Just announced in the budget - Grants for new routes from Regional Airports. Specifically mentioned Liverpool but didn't go into any detail.

[IB4138]

To clarify the exact quote is:

And because we want all parts of our country to see better links with the markets of the future we’re going to provide start-up support for new routes from regional airports, like Liverpool, Leeds or indeed Inverness.