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Old 28th Mar 2014, 20:29
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Manchester airport online timetable has SV123/124 as 4 weekly, extra flight on Saturdays apparently.

Can find no trace of this flight on any GDS, so will be interesting to see if this is a winter increase added early or an error (my money is on the latter, however)
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 22:26
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LAX_LHR, if you look at the seat count on seatguru.com and compare them with what Lufthansa's own pages says, there is a difference. For the A319 seatguru specify 122 seats and Lufthansa official states 138 seats - and this difference is 13% higher at Lufthansa. The differences are less for the A320 and A321, but we may well have found the 11% increased capacity.

Source: Lufthansa ® Germany - Seat maps and technical details of our fleets
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 23:19
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LAX_LHR, if you look at the seat count on seatguru.com and compare them with what Lufthansa's own pages says, there is a difference. For the A319 seatguru specify 122 seats and Lufthansa official states 138 seats - and this difference is 13% higher at Lufthansa. The differences are less for the A320 and A321, but we may well have found the 11% increased capacity.

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Sorry I don't see that is relevant.

LH say the 319 is a 138 seat aircraft because it has 138 seats. But it clearly shows that in the first 6 rows the middle seat isn't used making it a 126 (not 122) seat aircraft. Therefore unless business is being dropped from MAN that that will not account for the 11% increase.
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 23:34
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24 rows with 6 seats equals to 144 seats, not 138 viscount702
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Old 29th Mar 2014, 09:12
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If SAUDIA is an extra flight that would indeed be good news.

MAG Marketing did suggest they would go full tilt marketing visits to The Holy Cities this to communities throughout the North Midlands, Yorkshire and the NWest.
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Old 29th Mar 2014, 09:56
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24 rows with 6 seats equals to 144 seats, not 138 viscount702
In fact I misread the LH chart for the 319.

There are 25 rows in total of 6 seats = 150.

There are 6 rows in business where the middle seat isn't used =12l ess

Therefore total available 138 as per LH chart and presumably this hasn't changed recently to give the 11% increase.

The LH seat chart shows 6 rows of business class.

seatguru.com states the configuration can change and shows 8 rows of business class which is said to be the maximum and gives a seating capacity of 134. Why therefore seatguru.com says 122 is odd.
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Old 29th Mar 2014, 11:21
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Try again Viscount702, see if you can find seat row 13
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Old 29th Mar 2014, 12:09
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Try again Viscount702, see if you can find seat row 13
In fact I can't find row 17 either. Fell into that trap.

Therefore 23 rows in total giving 138 seats on the plane.

LH seat plan shows 6 rows of business giving total seats of 126.

seatguru.com shows the maximum of 8 rows of business giving total seats of 122.

This still wouldn't account for the increase.

If they cut out business completely that would come nearer the figure but I don't think they would do this. Therefore we can't see where this increase is coming from at least not yet. Probably an error by whoever wrote the article.
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Old 29th Mar 2014, 15:51
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The seat plans are "guides" not gospel.
From my experience in Lufty A319/320/321 Business class is variable to demand by simply moving the curtain divider.
I've had anything from 3 rows to 10 rows allocated to business class.
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Old 29th Mar 2014, 21:34
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Diverted flight

A good friend of mine who owns his own coach business, posted on social media last night that he was busy taking passengers to local hotels after a Frankfurt to Cuba flight had been diverted into Manchester on Full Emergency. I can't seem to find any details, anyone know anything?
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Old 29th Mar 2014, 22:18
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Flybe operating extra Milan flights from mid-May to mid-September on Wednesdays and Saturdays according to their timetable.
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Old 30th Mar 2014, 00:03
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Yes it was the DE196 operated by a Thomas cook B767 and departed mid afternoon from memory but may have been earlier

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Old 31st Mar 2014, 15:28
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Well, at long last Saudia re-start Manchester flights tomorrow, and judging by GDS booked loads and their prices, they have had no issues finding punters to fill those B777's!
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Old 1st Apr 2014, 10:56
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New Saudia flight to Jeddah today.

Took SQ306 (388) and BA188 (772) as diverts, even though football traffic also due or on stand.

Business booming at Air Livery.


Something to shout about?
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Old 1st Apr 2014, 11:03
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Got plenty to shout about this year.

5 new long haul routes with increases on 2-3 other long haul routes, plenty of short haul increases, at least 6 new based aircraft and lots of development around the airport and hopefully soon directly on airport too.

Plenty of other airports would kill to be in this position.
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Old 1st Apr 2014, 12:08
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Now we're out of the April Fools window....

Cathay Pacific in for the long-haul | Aspire Aviation

Cathay Pacific to launch daily 777-300ER flight to Zurich in Dec 2014
Manchester 4 times weekly 77W flight to launch in January 2015


Quite a bit of detail this time around.
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Old 1st Apr 2014, 12:13
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Interesting. I wonder if there is any truth to the article.

Could use the B777 to bed the service in, and then switch to A350 when they arrive.

Daily to Zurich seems a little high to me though
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Old 1st Apr 2014, 12:24
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double six
condor acft, hydraulic problem en route , diverted in for repair , pax in hotels for night , departed next day
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Old 1st Apr 2014, 21:17
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There is an article out and about saying "SV planning to increase frequency at the end of the year."
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Old 1st Apr 2014, 22:13
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There is an article out and about saying "SV planning to increase frequency
at the end of the year."
Well as noted earlier the MAN timetable is showing SV123/124 as 4 weekly on Tue, Thu, Sat and Sun.
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