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Old 18th Dec 2013, 03:42
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Which GDS Ryanair use? And also, you can see it?
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Old 18th Dec 2013, 07:55
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Bologna now loaded onto Ryanair site and uses a MAN based aircraft in the afternoon/evening.

Barcelona still not loaded.
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Old 18th Dec 2013, 09:43
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Bologna now loaded onto Ryanair site and uses a MAN based aircraft in the afternoon/evening.

Barcelona still not loaded.
BLQ will on Thursday be a non based aircraft.
Having checked the timetable I think the based aircraft will remain at 6.

The DUB increases are not loaded on web timetable as yet but the vast majority of these flights are on non based.

We don't know if KTW and TUF are returning for S14 but even if they do then these even with BCN and ZADAR will not provide sufficient new flights for and extra based aircraft. In fact bearing in mind the comments on this and other sites FR are cutting flights everywhere for S14 because of the lack of aircraft. therefore for the above reasons I think 6 will remain the number of based frames.
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Old 18th Dec 2013, 11:07
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Aer Lingus Regional will increase ORK-MAN to 3 daily next summer.

So, with SNN at 3 daily, ORK 3 daily and DUB proposed at 6 daily, not a bad offering from EI/EIr next year.
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Old 18th Dec 2013, 12:11
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No I think it's quite possible FR could go to 7 based a/c. Since Liverpool is the only one in the UK which seems to have been reduced and schedules for Manchester support an extra a/c, my bet is that in this case there is simply one a/c switching from Liverpool to Manchester.


The UK generally seems to have escaped most of the cuts due to the shortage of a/c which of course seems very promising for us. It's mainly across Spain, Germany and Scandinavia where most of the cuts seem to be occurring, and of course the closure of the Maastricht base.


Ireland, Italy and the UK should be the main growers next year for FR, possibly Belgium too with the new Zaventem base.
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Old 18th Dec 2013, 12:25
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As viscount the schedules have been re-shuffled to just about fit 6 aircraft, however there is still Friday that requires 7 based according to GDS, but a lot will depend if KTW/BIQ come back, and what the yet to be released BCN flights look like.

Of course, these 2 new routes (BLQ/BCN) may not be our only 2 routes, and if more routes/frequency increases are planned, then a 7th could well be on the cards (particularly Zadar which is in Chroma as MAN based yet not a sniff on the Ryanair site yet, interestingly it has been removed from the LPL section of new routes on Ryanair site.)

It still has not been officially confirmed/reported where the LPL based aircraft is going, and with potentially 5 routes still to be added at MAN, its not over until the fat lady sings, as they say. (I say 5, as while it is more likely the DUB based aircraft be used for the extra DUB flights, it is not impossible that a few MAN based flights could be added too)
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Old 18th Dec 2013, 13:43
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Barcelona BCN is only going to be 2 flights, on 13th and 13th March. Flights are football related, its a shame as I personally think Barcelona is slightly underserved from MAN.

Vueling will also run BCN-MAN on 19th Feb and 13th March.
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Old 19th Dec 2013, 06:51
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If SAUDIA is a runner and I suspect according to LAX it is, would it not benefit from an announcement NOW !

Either by the airline or indeed MAG who do share a modicum of interest ?
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Old 19th Dec 2013, 07:13
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I seem to recall that when the new services by US / AC Rouge were announced, MAN's Commercial Director said there were more announcements (plural) to come.

It was assumed at the time that one would be SV and there was a suggestion that another might be AA to Miami from next winter. A couple of announcements before Christmas would have been nice but it's looking doubtful now. Any updates on here from those more informed than me would be appreciated.
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Old 19th Dec 2013, 09:16
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Im not sure what is holding Saudia up, but rest assured it is still going ahead, all the ground contracts such as handling, hotels, transport etc are in place.

Air India and Air Blue at BHX came in with around a months forward sales (the latter having issues but was nothing to do with forward sales), so not in worrying territory yet.
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Old 19th Dec 2013, 09:24
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Thanks LAX-LHR as always. I guess some of these carriers work to their own rather strange timetables for announcing new routes and putting tickets on sale.

Any further hints about AA to Miami or anything else in the pipeline?
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Old 19th Dec 2013, 09:39
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AA to MIA still highly rumoured, however W14 will not fully go on sale for some time yet.

In terms of other long haul, the only rumours going round at the moment are the EK19/20 going A380, and Air China have re-applied for 4 weekly MAN-PEK from next year.

Most growth for next year will come from short haul, apart from what has already been announced/rumoured.
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Old 19th Dec 2013, 09:44
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CPX's "Hong Kong Trader" 748 has just arrived at MAN for the first time
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Old 19th Dec 2013, 12:29
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MAG bought Humberside and Bournemouth so their decision making process must be in question.

SGC
Humberside was a long time ago.

Bournemouth came as part of the deal with National Express when EMA was acquired. May not have too much passenger potential but the land-bank available for development was and still is rather valuable.....
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Old 19th Dec 2013, 17:39
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I wonder how long Biman intend to stay this time:

We will also return to Manchester, our third destination in the UK
So, after apparently BHX offering a better deal, and a larger market according to Biman, not only have they gone back to MAN anyway, but they could also potentially be about to offer more seats from MAN given MAN could potentially be a non-stop flight, and get 100% of the capacity whereas BHX flights are shared with JFK. Talk about a U-turn! And this is the airline Paul Kehoe is accrediting publicity to the runway extension.

Biman Bangladesh Adds Long-Haul Route to Birmingham and New York :: Routesonline

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Old 19th Dec 2013, 18:15
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Manchester Airport welcomes Hong Kong freighter service | Air Cargo World News

I believe Manchester on Wednesdays is the only place in the UK you can see a B747-800 and A380 on the ground together. A small yet nerdish accolade, but, one non the less.
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Old 19th Dec 2013, 18:51
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Can you check what FR are doing on DUB in GDS because rather that the expected increase in flights the Web timetable is showing they being reduced to two or three flights a day from June.

PS BHX also seems to be reducing
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Old 19th Dec 2013, 19:40
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Cathay B747 & Emirates A380 at Manchester

LAX LHR; And here's the proof! Ship Photos, Container ships, tankers, cruise ships, bulkers, tugs etc
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Old 19th Dec 2013, 22:02
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Interesting comments from a "Cabinet spokesman",no less.

Not interested in the politics but this is precisely why I feel Manchester "could" and "should" have argued their case more vehemently.

BBC News - London draining life out of rest of country - Vince Cable

Of course the difference Government spokesman make in terms of soundbites rather than changes in actual policy (eg APD) may be marginal BUT if you never shout nobody will ever hear you !

In the initial part of the Howard enquiry MAN had good PR but sadly this ebbed away and ultimately sank without trace after the purchase of STN.

Even NWest MPs who in my view threw in some pretty loaded questions must have been staggered at the total inability by MAG spokesmen to capitalise !

My God they even held part of the enquiry IN Manchester itself !

The question has to be asked why did they throw in the towel ?

see recent CAPA analysis

Forget the gloss MAG may put on this, they have now been left with an airport they "thought" was going to be shoe in for a major hub, although again how actual Government policy would turn this into reality remains a mystery.

And anybody who thinks that the Australian investors bought into this deal based on the single courtship with RYR is deluding themselves.

With little movement at STN other than the juggernaut that is RYR but three long haul airlines committing to MAN you do wonder if they themselves might feel they backed the wrong horse missing a golden opportunity to exploit further ?
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Old 19th Dec 2013, 22:35
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Not interested in the politics but this is precisely why I feel Manchester "could" and "should" have argued their case more vehemently.
You could and should argue as loud as you like, but that does not alter the fact that there were and are many reasons why Stansted was and is not the solution to future capacity issues. There have been so many cogent and informative posts on this forum arguing that.

If MAG were putting all their eggs into the basket of buying Stansted just for this one expectation, I'd be very surprised. (And sorry for the confused metaphor, but you know what I mean).
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