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Tell me about it, looking to be a very quiet winter and summer ahead so far.
Not a single new route announced for summer 2014 so far (to my knowledge), and winter only has the odd route from the incumbent low cost, flynonstop to Kristiansand and 2 (1 weekly) long haul routes from Thomas Cook.
Even the Middle Eastern trio seem to have gone cold, with only Emirates showing the remotest sign of expansion, and even that is a 'dipping their toe' in situation.
Very very quiet. Maybe we were just spoilt with this summers expansion?
Not a single new route announced for summer 2014 so far (to my knowledge), and winter only has the odd route from the incumbent low cost, flynonstop to Kristiansand and 2 (1 weekly) long haul routes from Thomas Cook.
Even the Middle Eastern trio seem to have gone cold, with only Emirates showing the remotest sign of expansion, and even that is a 'dipping their toe' in situation.
Very very quiet. Maybe we were just spoilt with this summers expansion?
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Lets look at MAG forecasts. At the time of the second runway application they projected that by 2005 the airport would be handling 30 million passengers... They actually achieved 22.4 million which was the record year. As recently as 2007 when numbers were 22.1million in the revised revised plan they said by 2015 they would be handling 39 million...... Forecast for 2013 is 20 million so next year they have to nearly double their numbers to be on target!!!!
In any organisation errors of that magnitude even after adjustments for certain events would result in senior people departing.
In any organisation errors of that magnitude even after adjustments for certain events would result in senior people departing.
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I think what has happened in last few years has stuffed everybody and figures
went out of the window so i don`t agree there because we are in uncharted territory
Chaps
went out of the window so i don`t agree there because we are in uncharted territory
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Its clear the forecast was a work in progress to get planning permission. Things have moved on and even MAG has gone elsewhere to maintain growth. It’s a mature market with some moving of deck chairs but major growth will be elusive. R2 not really needed, new terminal complex like LHR would have been a better investment
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I think you will find R2 very much needed just not all day, even as we speak
a trial is on during afternoon as 1 runway use is causing big delays mid afternoon
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a trial is on during afternoon as 1 runway use is causing big delays mid afternoon
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Wonder if there is anything in this?
Just had a nights stay at the MacDonald hotel Manchester, and 5 'suits' from Air Asia got out of the lift as I got in. Could only read 2 of their passes, one was ramp operations manager and other was network and strategy manager. Couldn't see the other 3 badges.
Thought they had given up on Europe?
Just had a nights stay at the MacDonald hotel Manchester, and 5 'suits' from Air Asia got out of the lift as I got in. Could only read 2 of their passes, one was ramp operations manager and other was network and strategy manager. Couldn't see the other 3 badges.
Thought they had given up on Europe?
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But wasn't it you that insisted that Saudia were recommencing
in January?
Is this still happening?
But wasn't it you that insisted that Saudia were recommencing
in January?
Is this still happening?
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Mickyman. Oh how we have missed you. Unchanged standard MO, I see. Attack posters who actually contribute commentary worthy of our attention, yet limit your own offerings to backbiting and sneering. What motivates you? Is it a jealousy thing?
BTW, LAX_LHR discusses airline industry rumours. He works in a role which gives him access to these. By their nature, some rumours come to fulfilment whilst others fall by the wayside. That is the deal if you read a 'rumours' forum (rumours being the 'R' in PPRuNe). If rumours irk you, then you have chosen to frequent the wrong forum. LAX_LHR, in contrast, is posting in exactly the right place and most readers here understand that rumours come without guarantees. But LAX_LHR gets more right than wrong, and even those new service proposals which do not come to fruition show us the way airlines are thinking. Useful in itself.
In this case, Saudia did apply for slots but they appear to have handed them back for now. That is pretty standard practice in this industry. But it is still of interest to know that they did apply because it shows that Manchester remains in their thinking.
Finally, rest assured that LAX_LHR is a valued contributor on here as he was on the other forum to which you refer. He knows that I have at times held different views than him on certain matters of fact, but we have always debated the issues in a respectful and constructive manner. Perhaps you could consider such an approach if you disagree with him? Or will a "result" for you mean hounding him off the forum? You know he won't stick around if he is subjected to too much flak from the self-important uninformed.
BTW, LAX_LHR discusses airline industry rumours. He works in a role which gives him access to these. By their nature, some rumours come to fulfilment whilst others fall by the wayside. That is the deal if you read a 'rumours' forum (rumours being the 'R' in PPRuNe). If rumours irk you, then you have chosen to frequent the wrong forum. LAX_LHR, in contrast, is posting in exactly the right place and most readers here understand that rumours come without guarantees. But LAX_LHR gets more right than wrong, and even those new service proposals which do not come to fruition show us the way airlines are thinking. Useful in itself.
In this case, Saudia did apply for slots but they appear to have handed them back for now. That is pretty standard practice in this industry. But it is still of interest to know that they did apply because it shows that Manchester remains in their thinking.
Finally, rest assured that LAX_LHR is a valued contributor on here as he was on the other forum to which you refer. He knows that I have at times held different views than him on certain matters of fact, but we have always debated the issues in a respectful and constructive manner. Perhaps you could consider such an approach if you disagree with him? Or will a "result" for you mean hounding him off the forum? You know he won't stick around if he is subjected to too much flak from the self-important uninformed.
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Will be interesting to see what the actual movement total hour by hour has
been as it has been relentless this afternoon with quite long holds at times at Dayne. When I get a total I will post.
Chaps
been as it has been relentless this afternoon with quite long holds at times at Dayne. When I get a total I will post.
Chaps
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Its all about timing.....when to write something 'as gospel' and
not ending up with 'egg on face'.
I don't think i'm jealous of incorrect information or at least
the providing of news that turns out to be not.
Your welcome,
MM
Its all about timing.....when to write something 'as gospel' and
not ending up with 'egg on face'.
I don't think i'm jealous of incorrect information or at least
the providing of news that turns out to be not.
Your welcome,
MM
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You have already had the offending post about me deleted so seems not everyone wallows in your self smugness.
Incidentally, what is it I get so wrong exactly? Aeroflot news which was actually a slot request and schedule posted on a Russian site at the time direct from the Moscow airport authority? Or the fact Saudi was actually showing in GDS for a brief period? Did I get the Etihad A340-600 that appeared today wrong when I posted about it months ago before it was made public (right down to the exact airframe co-incidentally)? Can you prove exactly that the Aeroflot/Saudia news was 'rubbish' as you seem to be suggesting. No, thought not.
Besides the point, what do you bring to the forum exactly other than belittling self righteous posts? Looking through your post history seems you have quite the history of merely posting to question other members. Therefore, seems I cannot even attempt to take it personally as seen as your lack of social skill seems to spread to many threads. You must feel so fulfilled in life, that much of your time is spent attacking people you do not even know from your anonymous stance. How I envy that sad existence
At the end of the day, whether rumours come about or not, at least some of my posts contain useful information, unlike some.
And onto that, my next post will actually contain some flights news, what will yours bring? More belittling no doubt. Good day
You have already had the offending post about me deleted so seems not everyone wallows in your self smugness.
Incidentally, what is it I get so wrong exactly? Aeroflot news which was actually a slot request and schedule posted on a Russian site at the time direct from the Moscow airport authority? Or the fact Saudi was actually showing in GDS for a brief period? Did I get the Etihad A340-600 that appeared today wrong when I posted about it months ago before it was made public (right down to the exact airframe co-incidentally)? Can you prove exactly that the Aeroflot/Saudia news was 'rubbish' as you seem to be suggesting. No, thought not.
Besides the point, what do you bring to the forum exactly other than belittling self righteous posts? Looking through your post history seems you have quite the history of merely posting to question other members. Therefore, seems I cannot even attempt to take it personally as seen as your lack of social skill seems to spread to many threads. You must feel so fulfilled in life, that much of your time is spent attacking people you do not even know from your anonymous stance. How I envy that sad existence
At the end of the day, whether rumours come about or not, at least some of my posts contain useful information, unlike some.
And onto that, my next post will actually contain some flights news, what will yours bring? More belittling no doubt. Good day
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Some football flights in October:
VY1470 BIO 0800 MAN 0900 23/10/13
VY1471 MAN 0345 BIO 0645 24/10/13
A320
VY2484 EAS 0830 MAN 0940 23/10/13
VY2485 MAN 1025 EAS 1325 24/10/13
A320 (EAS is San Sebastian)
VY1470 BIO 0800 MAN 0900 23/10/13
VY1471 MAN 0345 BIO 0645 24/10/13
A320
VY2484 EAS 0830 MAN 0940 23/10/13
VY2485 MAN 1025 EAS 1325 24/10/13
A320 (EAS is San Sebastian)
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I think we were single runway ops this afternoon so quite busy from 1300-till 1400 17arr 15 dep, 1400-till 1500 20arr 16dep, 1500-till 1600 11arr 21dep,
1600-till 1700 10arr 18dep and 1700-till 1800 19arr 15dep 162 mov in 5 hours
So all in nothing mega but an average of 32 an hour allowing for some taxiways being closed at 05end
Chaps
1600-till 1700 10arr 18dep and 1700-till 1800 19arr 15dep 162 mov in 5 hours
So all in nothing mega but an average of 32 an hour allowing for some taxiways being closed at 05end
Chaps
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Sorry if this sounds a bit vague .. but whose was the A340 late this afternoon wearing the highly colourful paint job including black and white chequers on the rear fuselage and tail ...?
I live 2 (flight) miles from the 25R threshold so I'm used to seeing all sorts go by but I didn't recognize this and wasn't able to get to my scanner or FR24 in time to track it ....
I live 2 (flight) miles from the 25R threshold so I'm used to seeing all sorts go by but I didn't recognize this and wasn't able to get to my scanner or FR24 in time to track it ....