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[johnnychips]

Thanks a lot. So do the passengers have to get off for the extra search; and is the luggage also rechecked?

[LAX_LHR]

Thanks a lot. So do the passengers have to get off for the extra search; and
is the luggage also rechecked?

The passengers get off and get re-screened but I'm genuinely unsure if the luggage gets re-checked. Maybe someone else can confirm?

[Fairdealfrank]

The flight can be done non-stop as its a B777-200LR, however the Americans insist that an extra security search is done, and PK chose MAN for this.

In some respects, you can't blame them!

The flight operates JFK-PAK non-stop on the way back, and the Pakistan-Canada route, which also used to stop at MAN, are now direct both ways, as the Canadians do not require extra checks.

Would be a long old flight nonstop, 15-16 hours westbound?
A bit like BOM-JFK-BOM on AI, is that still going?

Thanks a lot. So do the passengers have to get off for the extra search; and is the luggage also rechecked?

The passengers get off and get re-screened but I'm genuinely unsure if the luggage gets re-checked. Maybe someone else can confirm?

Since pax have to disembark and be rescreened anyway, a stop over at DUB or SNN would have advantages: USA pre-clearance. Perhaps PK uses MAN because it's already established there.

[LAX_LHR]

Since pax have to disembark and be rescreened anyway, a stop over at DUB or SNN would have advantages: USA pre-clearance. Perhaps PK uses MAN because it's already established there.

Yes it ideally does not matter where the stop is, and a move to SNN was touted a few months ago, but nothing ever came of it.

[LAX_LHR]

Does anybody know why the UA flight from Washington swaps its flight numbers around on some days?

On Sat, Sun and Mon, the flight operates UA100 IAD-MAN, then 101 MAN-IAD.

On Tue, Wed and Fri, the flight operates as UA101 IAD-MAN and UA100 MAN-IAD.

Seems a little odd and doesn't seem to be a reason as to why it happens?

[chaps2011]

that could be fun if one delayed by a day as there could be flights going in opposite direction with same flight number

Chaps

[j636]

that could be fun if one delayed by a day as there could be flights going in opposite direction with same flight number

Chaps

If a flight is delayed and rescheduled airlines always use the number 2 in front of the flight number.

[chaps2011]

sorry I was being a bit tongue in cheek

[spannersatcx]

Quote:
Chaps
If a flight is delayed and rescheduled airlines always use the number 2 in front of the flight number.

No they don't, we use a D so cx250 becomes cx250D

[Skipness One Echo]

There's no hard and fast rule, BA append a 'Y' to the end of the delayed flight number but the callsign is often just in the BAW9000 range.

[LAX_LHR]

Many airlines use different ways of running delayed flights.

BA runs the flight as a BA9*** number, Emirates either runs the flight with a D or 8, for example EK018D or EK8018.

My original question remains unanswered however, which is why the UA100/101 swaps over on some days.

[Invicta DC4]

I thought there was a "rule" that all eastbound transatlantic flights had to have odd flight numbers and westbound even flight numbers.

[viscount702]

Does anybody know why the UA flight from Washington swaps its flight numbers around on some days?

On Sat, Sun and Mon, the flight operates UA100 IAD-MAN, then 101 MAN-IAD.

On Tue, Wed and Fri, the flight operates as UA101 IAD-MAN and UA100 MAN-IAD.

Seems a little odd and doesn't seem to be a reason as to why it happens?

I have just checked on the UA website and all eastbound flights show up as 100 and westbound 101. That is both in the timetable section and booking engine from now up until just before Christmas.

On a separate note is JED still showing in the preview of GDS as still nothing announced afaik.

[LAX_LHR]

Taken off Amadeus public portal.

This is Monday 6th Jan:

United – Flights 101
8h 25mTake-offMon 12:00MAN Manchester, ENG, United KingdomLandingMon 15:25IAD Washington, DC, United States Boeing 757-200 (Narrow-body Jet) | 8h 25m

This is Wednesday 8th Jan:

United – Flights 100 8h 20mTake-offWed 12:00MAN Manchester, ENG, United KingdomLandingWed 15:20IAD Washington, DC, United States Boeing 757-200 (Narrow-body Jet) | 8h 20m

Both same direction, yet the flight numbers have swapped.

In terms of Saudia, still in GDS, apparently all ground contracts have been signed, so not sure what the delay in announcing the flight is.

[viscount702]

Just checked UA website for dates near the ones quoted by you

Outbound MAN-IAD 5/1/2014 UA101

Return IAD-MAN 12/1/2014 a week later UA101

Weird. Would one of connections be able to assist

[All names taken]

LAX_LHR

Off the top of my head I've taken the IAD flight 5 or 6 times since it started, it's always been UA100 Eastbound and UA101 Westbound.
Glitch in the system???

On the JED....what are the proposed days of operation and the timings currently on view; just mentioned it to a friend last night who goes out there quite a bit and he was interested (if it's a non-stop that is).

[LAX_LHR]

Hi all-names.

Im aware of the current UA flight numbers, however its from January that these flight number swaps happen, and is appearing on many platforms.

In terms of Saudia:

SV198 JED 0425 MAN 0815
SV199 MAN 1010 JED 1935

Wed, Fri, Sun B777-200

This has been in the system for a while now, so not sure what is happening with it. GDS does not normally display slot requests, so I know its not just that.

[All names taken]

Thanks for that, I'll pass the info on.
Attractive departure times from MAN

[Bagso]

Given their previous track record I doubt the MAG marketing know SAUDIA are even starting.

Great news in terms of Manchester cementing it's position as largest retail city outside London, certainly good for short haul inbound market.

The city has a diverse retail mix and thriving events calendar which has grown in size and stature year on year, according to The Heart of Manchester BID. - Manchester Evening News

Less than good news David Cameron driving round China in his London Centric Black Cab, (follows on from his US visit where trumpeted "Visit Britain..in er a London Bus).

Yes THEY are made by the Chinese but c'mon how about arriving in a Range Rover made on Merseyside, Rolls Royce/ Bentley made in Crew OR a JCB from Uttoxeter BOTH plants only an hour from Manchester.

[LAX_LHR]

Yes THEY are made by the Chinese but c'mon how about arriving in a Range
Rover made on Merseyside

All the news reports I saw through the day were promoting Range Rover and the fact something like 100,000 had just been sold to the Chinese?