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Old 25th Apr 2013, 18:22
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Yes it's far from ideal but if you really want one stop MAN-LAS then you go via LHR with BA.
You could always go direct from MAN via a US hub . The choice is yours

Unlike you to forget Mr Skipness, or are you on commission?

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Old 25th Apr 2013, 18:27
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A genuine mistake, I was looking at a one stop via London and the hhhhhhorrors of a LHR-LGW transfer. There are options going the right way with the US carriers of course! If I was booking ex MAN I'd probably choose them. See? Not a fan-boy.

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Old 25th Apr 2013, 19:08
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Anybody know if we have any prospect of getting this service back?
When it started with 777's I did think it was a bit optimistic size-wise at the time.

In mainland Europe their A320's are regular visitors and bearing in mind their acquisition of a fair few A321's, which I think would have the range to get up here, I wonder if the airport have made any noises regarding re-instatement of the service?

Maybe the loads were very poor though...anybody know please?
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Don't think the old B772 service did that well against the more attractive, frequent and non-dry alternatives. It did pick up some 5th freedom traffic to the GVA stop off, especially winter skiers who could just about manage two hours without a G&T.
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An interesting article in Northwest business news
Home / Deals/Restructuring / Osborne to launch new Manchester-China Forum


Osborne to launch new Manchester-China Forum

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CHANCELLOR George Osborne is launching as new venture designed to build trade links and secure direct flights between Manchester and China.

The Manchester-China Forum is a new business-led initiative aimed at increasing Greater Manchester’s commercial connectivity with the world's second-largest economy.

Mr Osborne said: “The Chinese community make a huge contribution to Manchester and to the United Kingdom. China continues to grow at a remarkable pace and I want to make the UK the first place Chinese companies think of when they come to do business in Europe.

"I strongly support the Manchester-China Forum and the ambition of Manchester Airports Group to provide a direct airline service between Manchester and China as the natural next step in developing these links.”

The Forum builds on the recommendations set out in Lord Nat Wei’s Report ‘Growing East – A Strategy for Greater Manchester’s engagement with China’ published in July 2012.

Lord Wei’s report identified China as a strategic priority for Greater Manchester, with a strong potential for growth in trade, inward investment, tourism and education.

The six main goals of the Manchester-China Forum are:
• support the growth of Manchester’s exports to China by 2018;
• increase inward investment into Manchester from Chinese companies;
• grow inward tourism from Chinese visitors;
• increase Chinese student numbers in Greater Manchester’s educational institutions;
• increase student retention; and
• secure direct air routes between Manchester and China.

Charlie Cornish, chief executive of the Manchester Airports Group (MAG) and chair of the Forum, said: “The forum will be business-focused and targeted specifically at the Greater Manchester region.

"The partners involved felt a need for local businesses to receive more focused help so we will specifically identify Chinese sectors and regions with characteristics complementary to Manchester, and then devote our resources to building networks with them.

"More than £4bn of business was struck between China and the North West of England last year and we want to build on that start and ensure a lasting legacy between our two countries.”


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Old 26th Apr 2013, 08:15
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CHANCELLOR George Osborne is launching as new venture designed to build trade links and secure direct flights between Manchester and China.
I do hope any Chinese airline makes APD a deal-breaker. That'll test his resolve.
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Old 26th Apr 2013, 09:52
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I do hope any Chinese airline makes APD a deal-breaker. That'll test his
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I fully agree. Will he be willing to 'put his money where his mouth is', or, will it all just be hot air as usual.

Its going to be interesting to see how much he genuinely 'supports' an new air link. Lets not forget he was a champion for milking the airport for compensation for the residents of Mobberly etc.
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Old 26th Apr 2013, 11:38
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He appears to be looking dreamily up the approach at a China Southern777 !
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Old 26th Apr 2013, 13:55
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As part of the continuing relationship with Condor, Thomas Cook will be using Orlando International, rather than Sanford, next summer.

The new Antigua/St. Lucia flights appear to be seasonal at the moment, as 1 weekly Barbados is loaded for S14, but the other 2 do not (yet).
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Old 26th Apr 2013, 16:02
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Germanwings STR

4U appears to drop STR-MAN with the end of the summer period.
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Old 26th Apr 2013, 16:16
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Well, that's not good.

Got a funny feeling Lufthansa will not be releasing the obligatory celebrating 'large increases' at Manchester press release this year after this lot.

So, Berlin dropped, 1 weekly MUC flight gone, 1 daily Dusseldorf gone, and now Stuttgart courtesy of Germanwings dropped.

I suppose you win some and loose some, but its certainly been a while that MAN has lost more flights in a month than gained.
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Old 26th Apr 2013, 19:02
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I fully agree. Will he be willing to 'put his money where his mouth is', or, will it all just be hot air as usual.

Its going to be interesting to see how much he genuinely 'supports' an new air link. Lets not forget he was a champion for milking the airport for compensation for the residents of Mobberly etc.
At which point anyone currently making money from routing passengers to China via their own hub in Europe or the Middle East is just expected to roll over and accept the tax break given to a competitor?
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Old 26th Apr 2013, 19:10
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At which point anyone currently making money from routing passengers to China via their own hub in Europe or the Middle East is just expected to roll over and accept the tax break given to a competitor?
Actually I would like APD lowered across the board. I don't expect anything for free mind you, but at the same time I do not agree with paying the rates we are subject to now.
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Old 26th Apr 2013, 19:30
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TCX will be operating some changes in 2014.

Las Vegas 3x weekly (wed,fri & sun)
Cancun 4x weekly (tue,wed,fri & sun)
Majorca Daily
Punta Cana Now weekly
Varadero Now Weekly
Barbados, St Lucia and Antigua are carrying on from Winter into Summer.
Monastir is back in addition to NBE.
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Old 26th Apr 2013, 19:33
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That's quite a beefed up long haul schedule.

Seems the Condor deal could help no end!
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Old 27th Apr 2013, 06:33
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Easyjet has won the rights to serve MAN-LED (St. Petersburg).

While a company spokesperson has said 'they will not use the rights at present', that's a standard press response, but they are obviously interested:

EasyJet wins approval for Manchester-Saint Petersburg service | Airports & Routes content from ATWOnline
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Old 27th Apr 2013, 12:45
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LH Munich

The LH MUC Sat nightstopper hasn't operated for a long time so not sure how it can be reduced ?????
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The LH MUC Sat nightstopper hasn't operated for a long time so not sure how
it can be reduced ?????
Seems you are right.

Looks like there is a 'ghost' in the system as my screen shows LH2505 arrives at 22:20 Saturdays and then departs at 06:55 Sundays.

Oh well, small ray of hope in amongst the bleak German picture then.
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Old 27th Apr 2013, 13:24
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"Seems the Condor deal could help no end!"
I dont understand how a combined booking system will help, Condor pax ex Germany will not really want to non interline connect to MAN when there are plenty of local options for departures
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I dont understand how a combined booking system will help, Condor pax ex
Germany will not really want to non interline connect to MAN when there are
plenty of local options for departures
They have done a lot more than just 'slap a codeshare on it', so to speak.

-Back office functions of TCX/TCW and DE have now been 'merged', so he business is more streamlined.

-GDS availability means that TCX seats can now be viewed on things such as Amadeus and Sabre, thus appearing on more 'flight comparison sites', and thus in turn leads to more awareness. TCX is now not just purely a charter airline, but a quasi charter/scheduled one, similar to Jet2 and Monarch.

-Airline being run as more of a 'stand alone business' now, so the holiday arm, whilst will still account for a large number of seats, has less influence over the airline, so that the airline can run whats profitable for them, and not just fits the needs of the holiday business.
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