The official end of the Boeing 747, say the airlines.
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777 air conditioning noise is horrendous; the big engined variants (GE90-115B) vibrate in the cabin. As one who also is lucky enough to fly a lot in J-Class, the A380s peaceful interior and it's feeling of solidness in take-off, landing and turbulence (due to the active load alleviation?) wins it for me every step of the way.
And by the way - Lufthansa claims that the A380 has 6% lower fuel burn per seat than their 747-8i (published figure in Lufthansa Magazin). I humbly suggest that they are the only ones who today know this for certain, so I tend to believe them.
And by the way - Lufthansa claims that the A380 has 6% lower fuel burn per seat than their 747-8i (published figure in Lufthansa Magazin). I humbly suggest that they are the only ones who today know this for certain, so I tend to believe them.
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But you must also remember that the 748 has the same number of F and J seats as the A380 and as a result they take up a noticeably larger percentage of the overall seats which makes the fuel burn per seat seem worse than it would be if it had the same percentage of premium seats as the A380.
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Some airlines might be saying that the 747 is history but that is probably PR for saying that they are buying new machines and want to make out that old = bad.
On the other hand, some carriers are trumpting the refurbishment of their 747s. VS have just emailed me with links to the refurbishment of 744 'Barbarella' (and what appears to be a D-check) and her return to service with the latest seating and in flight entertainment systems. (Rather than advertise for them, you can search for B's refit on a Tube that is near You.)
Long live the 747!
On the other hand, some carriers are trumpting the refurbishment of their 747s. VS have just emailed me with links to the refurbishment of 744 'Barbarella' (and what appears to be a D-check) and her return to service with the latest seating and in flight entertainment systems. (Rather than advertise for them, you can search for B's refit on a Tube that is near You.)
Long live the 747!
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I shall be flying long haul with BA in a couple of weeks because it is the 747 - Club World. Could have flown VS or AC but will fly 747 every time if poss.
Recently flew VS because BA used the 777 on the route, sorry just do not like the 777, much rather fly A380 so another -1!
Recently flew VS because BA used the 777 on the route, sorry just do not like the 777, much rather fly A380 so another -1!
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Agreed GROUNDHOG. I travel much less than I used to but still favour the 747 over anything else. Time may prove other a/c the way it has proved this one.
What is the actual cause of the continuous thunderous roar inside the 777, compared to the A330, or indeed even the 747 ? The racket is even more noticeable in the rear cabins. Is it the aircon, the way the engines are mounted, or what ? It is most noticeable, of course, if you take a flight on a carrier, eg Cathay, where you connect from one type to the other, so the difference is immediately apparent. It's a constant thing - Airbus used to refer to it some years ago in their advertising.
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I'd rather fly in a plane which is serviced by maintenance engineers who have some idea of what's going on inside the black boxes.
A380: Smoke and mirrors with aluminium wiring, ethernet and firewalls connecting them... oh, and on the ground, four external power leads to power them ...
Hold on a minute, sorry, 3 hours, the computers are rebooting....
A good aircraft is one which has had all the bugs ironed out.
A380: Smoke and mirrors with aluminium wiring, ethernet and firewalls connecting them... oh, and on the ground, four external power leads to power them ...
Hold on a minute, sorry, 3 hours, the computers are rebooting....
A good aircraft is one which has had all the bugs ironed out.
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Heathrow Harry, no way. The B748 and B787 series are aimed at totally different markets, routes and customers. B747-8 is aimed at the 450 seat long haul market up against the Airbus 380. B787 is aimed at the 300 seat long/medium hall market up against the Airbus A330.
The most likely winner of the Dreamliner fiasco is the Airbus A350.
The most likely winner of the Dreamliner fiasco is the Airbus A350.
