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Old 18th Nov 2015, 13:52
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Whilst it does seem obvious to do so, an airline cannot negotiate codeshares on its services before the route is announced. There has to be time between a route going on sale and a codeshare being placed on it. This goes for all routes, regardless of how obvious it may seem.


A codeshare cant be the deciding factor for a new route as its seen as collusion between two businesses - in this case Flybe and AF/KLM. So discussions between the carriers cannot begin until the route is announced.


Quite sure your contact is correct though - there will undoubtedly be codeshares on those services in the coming months.
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Old 1st Dec 2015, 00:23
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Good PAX data for DSA this year - relatively speaking. With Nov and Dec still to go, it's showing 750k movements - more than the full-year totals for the past three years. With the new flights next year, I wouldn't be surprised to see something approaching a million passengers passing through in 2016. It's only hit the 1m mark once before, in 2007, when I believe Ryanair and Easyjet were still there. It's still not particularly busy, of course, but the growth is encouraging.
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Old 1st Dec 2015, 09:42
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Advertizing

Could be busier still if flybe & Wizz advertised what's on offer, seems to be really lazy attitude to route promotion throughout the region, hoping people will just find flight options from DSA online.
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Old 2nd Dec 2015, 06:50
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Could be busier still if flybe & Wizz advertised what's on offer, seems to be really lazy attitude to route promotion throughout the region, hoping people will just find flight options from DSA online.
Wizz are well known in the markets in which they are engaged - advertising by whatever media other than online I don't think would be cost effective.

FlyBe, perhaps may find advertising of more use - and certainly where I'm from they run radio campaigns selling both their East Midlands and Birmingham offerings, and it wouldn't surprise me if nearer the time you find advertising popping up on commercial radio.

What we have to remember is that today people research and book their flights online, and if the online marketing is right then prospective passengers will find the services easily on the web. Airlines don't have money to burn on costly broadcast and press advertising when the web will do it for them.
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Old 2nd Dec 2015, 10:43
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Wizz could perhaps make a greater effort to sell "off-the-beaten-track" city breaks, not just from DSA but from all its UK airports.

I would be surprised if DSA doesn't launch some sort of one-off awareness campaign in places like Leeds and Sheffield early next year when the link road opens, perhaps in conjunction with its airlines
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Old 2nd Dec 2015, 11:43
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Wizz could perhaps make a greater effort to sell "off-the-beaten-track" city breaks, not just from DSA but from all its UK airports.
With the loads they are already carrying I would ask why they would want to spend the money, it's not as though they are in direct competition on many of their routes.
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Old 2nd Dec 2015, 16:34
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I'd originally stated "advertising", Got to agree it is awareness that is needed. DSA has offered so little beyond chartered tour operator flights for several years that many non enthusiasts or those outside of Doncaster, just don't know the full scale of proposed ops for Summer'16, and are already booking flights over the Pennines for that season. Probably wrong to bring Wizz into it given their load factors, but it is about people knowing there is a broad range of destinations available - Eastern Europe included. Hope something is on the cards for a big fuss around road opening, and also hope that is not too late and miss early ticket sales for Summer'16.
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Old 2nd Dec 2015, 18:04
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I would have thought there will be larger scale marketing plans for January.. Typically one of the busier times for leisure bookings.
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No doubt in connection with Flybe opening a base, the airport will be opening a premium lounge in March.
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 11:25
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Link road's opening now appears to be February 2016, as opposed to the earlier estimate of January. Wonder if it will open by the time the Flybe flights start?
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Old 7th Jan 2016, 12:37
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If the base happens it all adds to the airports arsenal.

The "Amazon" cargo flights have resumed today after a Christmas break - long may it continue.

Amazon apparently trialling European air freight service
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Old 7th Jan 2016, 15:01
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Amazon

Amazon currently building a massive warehouse/distribution hub in Coalville Leicestershire, not sure if the trial flights could be linked in any way
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Old 7th Jan 2016, 15:17
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Originally Posted by Crusher1
Amazon currently building a massive warehouse/distribution hub in Coalville Leicestershire, not sure if the trial flights could be linked in any way
I would doubt they would use DSA for that given the proximity of one of the biggest airfreight hubs in the UK just up the road. Happy to be proved wrong though.
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Old 7th Jan 2016, 15:22
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The 250,000sqft Amazon warehouse at Doncaster should be enough.
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Old 7th Jan 2016, 15:30
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This link may prove interesting. Amazon to create 1,500 jobs by opening huge warehouse at Airport City - Manchester Evening News
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Old 7th Jan 2016, 16:14
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Should Amazon's airfreight trials become a permanent operation then it will be interesting to see how it is rolled out across the UK/Europe.
Amazon's flights initially started using EMA for about a week before switching to DSA, I would imagine due to its proximity to their new facility in Doncaster.
However the new Coalville hub, at nearly 1.5 million sq. ft. will become the largest in the UK (and possibly Europe?) so if the proposed flights are to become a hub and spoke type operation then they may well choose to base them on EMA once this new facility is completed, as it will be more central to the rest of Amazon's UK fulfilment centres.
Its location would also be advantageous if, as has been mooted, Amazon were to offer their transportation services to others in competition with the likes of DHL/UPS etc. whose hubs are at EMA.
As always time will tell and no doubt incentives will play a part in the final decision!


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Old 7th Jan 2016, 17:19
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Originally Posted by Balair
Should Amazon's airfreight trials become a permanent operation then it will be interesting to see how it is rolled out across the UK/Europe.
Amazon's flights initially started using EMA for about a week before switching to DSA, I would imagine due to its proximity to their new facility in Doncaster.
However the new Coalville hub, at nearly 1.5 million sq. ft. will become the largest in the UK (and possibly Europe?) so if the proposed flights are to become a hub and spoke type operation then they may well choose to base them on EMA once this new facility is completed, as it will be more central to the rest of Amazon's UK fulfilment centres.
Its location would also be advantageous if, as has been mooted, Amazon were to offer their transportation services to others in competition with the likes of DHL/UPS etc. whose hubs are at EMA.
As always time will tell and no doubt incentives will play a part in the final decision!


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Sorry to rain on Donny's parade, but I do agree with this - it is logical, given the proximity of Coalville to EMA, and the fact the EMA is already the major UK hub for all but one of the major integrators - and thus carriers for Amazon. I can't see the logistical case for using Doncaster-Sheffield in this case.
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Old 10th Jan 2016, 01:40
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Any news on Links air, they still based their, pilots still employed? AOC?
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Old 11th Jan 2016, 14:03
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More importantly, a Subway franchise has now opened in the DSA terminal!
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Old 11th Jan 2016, 18:47
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Wow that's going to pull in the punters!
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