DONCASTER SHEFFIELD

[Keyvon]

@TimmyW

Bourgas by TOM is not operated for the current summer schedule, too. It is still offered by Balkan Holidays.

The only destination which it seems to be dropped for next year is Kos.

[TimmyW]

Thomas are also doing Bourgas this year. Starts next week

[LBIA]

Thomas are also doing Bourgas this year. Starts next week

So who's Thomas! Also what aircraft is been using for this new flight to Bourgas that no one knows about apart from you TimmyW?

[TimmyW]

Thomson. iPhones predictive text.

Mondays departing at 18.30

Any more questions??

[SWBKCB]

Synergy

Aren't DSA and LPL now owned by separate companies?

Thought DSA was Peel and LPL was Vantage (although Peel are part owners of Vantage).

Is there still any operational links?

[onyxcrowle]

Sorry its all typed on a smart phone.
Its auto correct hates me.
Basically I meant this
I had an email from a genuinely rock solid source..I wont name that source as the email to me was to me only.
It didnt say it was confidential but they had the decency to reply with a fairly detailed response.
The jist was . A hub connection is expected in the near term (imminent).
Klm?..
I think not
By No I meant Norweigan. Purely on the basis they already fly from lpl. They are buying more aircraft.
They stated they are looking to expand into smaller uk airports prob those with little or no loco traffic.
After previous efforts by the airport. What was promised the great AMS link turned into poorly timed services. Too large an aircraft ( wernt thwy 320's).
Then the airport published an announcement from a startup airline that never happened.
Abd if it had its published prices could only have attracted very wealthy people. .
I wouldn't have ever started to talk to an airline likw that.
So given that form I bet and can see Norweigan coming in. Probably a fair few flights a week.
But it will have to beat previous efforts or it too will fail.
Plus Dsa to Cph is a longer flight than Ams..
Timing would be critical if it was to offer code share for ongoing long haul.
I dont know if Norweigan (NO). Have code share
Hence why I think it fits as being that neq hub route. Its the same kinda setup before a good potentially busy route but has against it travel time and is it a real alternative to Ams..
As for my writing I do apologise. Im on strong meds from the Doctors for my illness it makes it difficult to use this app to post here.
As for thw point about longhaul.
That was definitely mentioned. The midde east was I think the one that was Mentioned as I had directly asked about that. (All uk Dubai flights arw always packed. With a long runway and better weather in terns of winds. Id bet Dsa would be an Easy bet down the line . Note the long haul stuff was way down the road yet.
Also I think a Domestic route is almost on us. Ive read Aberdeen a while back. But it didnt say what carriers.
Regards Hop It is the new name for air France regional
And you know who city jet are.
Perhaps the Bmi training the other day was a clue to the domestic route.
I cant see them doing any hub connection. Unless they now fly to one.

[AP1995]

Just because aircraft do training at the airport, it does not mean they will set up routes from there. Jet2, Monarch, Easyjet all do training from there and have no routes.

[TimmyW]

Hope your right Onyx. As now with Thomson cutting more routes, it doesnt look good.

BMI was the airline I heard the rumor about.

[jetstar.8]

it doesn`t look good

TimmyW
DSA is going down the same way DTV did from record passenger figures in 2006 to the worst passenger figures since 1973 in 2012

[onyxcrowle]

Once the link road is in the economy will be up this time next year.
Norweigan seem a hot prospect. They are at lpl. Could they do lpl -cph-dsa-cph-lpl.
Perhaps that gives the airport its Hub thing.
Though as always never quite what wed hoped.
A downside is id reckon theyd come in with perhaps three or four neq routes that we dont Have.
Norway. Stavanger maybe. Oslo hl hopefully keflavic and vagar.
But my best bet
Theyl do
CPH
Alicantie
Canaries.
PalmA
Prauge
Oslo

FLY bmi.
Almost certainly would be a good bet along with Eastern
Aberdeen
Southampton
Edinburgh

Loganair. (Pie in the sky but why not)
Glasgow
Prestwick
Inverness

Ones for Huy with then
Direct flighs E170 to
Stornoway
Sumburgh Direct.

Easyjet I think will be back. Prob Ams oe Maybe a German Hub
Easyjet to Gatwick.
Prauge
Bristol
Ams
Southern Med
Greece
Tel Aviv try tempt them from MAM

[davidjohnson6]

onyx - I'm sure it's just a sign of local pride, but could you try to be a little more realistic - the chance of a Doncaster - Tel Aviv route is absolutely zero.

[Ringwayman]

And there's rumours that Norwegian's LPL-CPH was started to take advantage of incentives given by CPH for unserved routes, and once they cease, the route will be transferred to sit alongside the other MAN routes they operate. Besides they are not a "legacy" airline - yes they fly to major Scandinavian airports but there's no way they will be offering connections which would be purpose of them intimating "hub" airport

If anything, perhaps a 2 daily Aer Lingus Regional to Dublin.

As for new domestic links, are we supposed to forget the beautiful APD which will kill it off in a trice as it affects you'd be paying it twice?

I'd be extremely surprised if easyJet came back. There must be a reason why the left.

[Cazza_fly]

onyx - I'm sure it's just a sign of local pride, but could you try to be a little more realistic - the chance of a Doncaster - Tel Aviv route is absolutely zero.

I have to agree.

I really don't understand the latest obsession with Norwegian either? Any link with Liverpool's operations and DSA's as a group can't really be used anymore as they are now operating under different ''ownerships''. Also some of the destination's you have suggested (Keflavik and Vagar) are not even operated by Norwegian from their major bases so why you would think they could make them work at DSA baffles me?

easyJet to Gatwick; Well personally I don't see a London link (even more so without direct interline connections) ever working from DSA or anywhere further south in the country than MAN/LBA. Those who want to travel into the city have the option of doing so with upto 6 trains an hour from Doncaster alone. The direct journey times from center to centre average from around 1h 30m from Doncaster and usually no longer than 2 hours from Sheffield. Those connecting to other flights, most likely longhaul, already have the option of using suitable flights to LHR from other Northern airports that I feel supply the demand well.
As for Tel Aviv, why would easyJet want to 'tempt' their own customers away from Manchester?

I feel it would be better all round if we try and stick more to the rumours and news regarding DSA and it's airlines on this thread rather than potentials and fantasies...

[LAX_LHR]

Onyxcrowle,

Did you actually do ANY research into your list or did you simply just look at a map and think 'Id like an airline to serve there, there and there'?

Firstly, Norwegian:

Could they do lpl -cph-dsa-cph-lpl

No because LPL is not a base. Flights would be from CPH and not part of a LPL W pattern as you have suggested.

Stavanger to DSA? Is there a market? Probably not (unless the Doncaster rovers matches are actually full of Scandinavians?)

Secondly, easyjet:

Tel Aviv try tempt them from MAM

Im assuming you mean MAN? Do you know why they serve MAN-TLV? Its not just because 'they feel like it and have no-where better to use the aircraft', its because there is a market, and one that can currently support flights from MAN due to the large Jewish population that reside in the MAN area. Has Doncaster got a large Jewish Population? No. Has Sheffield? Not one large enough to support soon 3 weekly flights from easyjet.

Lastly, I appreciate you are using a phone or tablet or whatever, but please can you at least attempt to proof read your posts, they are very hard to understand, both due to layout and spelling.

[barry lloyd]

Cazza_fly:

LAX_LHR:

[WOWBOY]

Interesting read this fourm. I see Doncaster Sheffield as bit of white elephant. It hasn't really taken off(sorry for the pun). Why does it seem to fail to attract airlines and routes?

Guess nearby Leeds Bradford doesn't help.

[anothertyke]

You need a core market. LBA is far from ideally connected but it does have York, Harrogate, Leeds and Bradford within easy reach. There's a lot of spending power there. Then there is MAN with so much range and frequency. If you say that airports like MAN are premier league and LBA/EMA championship, I don't see DSA achieving promotion from league one. Too close to the others and not enough affluent core market. Nothing to do with operational management, that's how it is.

[ILS32]

A good analogy anothertyke using the football league as a reference to airport status.
Unfortunately DSA is in the drop zone for division 2. It will take a good manager to get them out of it.

[LN-KGL]

Cazza_fly, Norwegian has trice weekly flights from OSL to KEF. In case some of you didn't know: Norwegian's by far largerst hub and base you will find at OSL. Measured in available seats OSL is over 125% larger than ARN, the second largest hub and base. If you want to learn more about Norwegian, a good starting point would be the CAPA Norwegian report from Feb 2013:
Norwegian Air Shuttle: at a critical turning point | CAPA - Centre for Aviation

Not even Robin Hood can persuade Norwegian to fly to DSA.

[TimmyW]

Some bizarre posts and route predictions.

The facts are there, routes continue to be cut, as I said Thomson have cut 2 more routes for next summer, adding to the decline.

I had heard rumours about BMI, but in reality, it isn't going to happen.