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midland_pilot - I'm sure your heart is in the right place, but from your most recent post it's difficult to infer much of great substance - or you are expecting people to read very carefully between the lines. It just seems a bit like trying to cheer up the troops without actually saying anything new.
Would it perhaps be possible for you to make it a little clearer what you're trying to express to us all ?
Would it perhaps be possible for you to make it a little clearer what you're trying to express to us all ?
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I was merely expressing a small bit of knowledge to put a positive spin on things. "Cheering up the troops" sounds too militant for my liking - last time I checked BMIR was a commercial operation? That said my comments were tailored to both employees and the interested public. After all this is an open forum isn't it?
Who knows what's around the corner, lets hope its all good.
Enjoy Silver service week those who are lucky enough to fly this week!
MP
Who knows what's around the corner, lets hope its all good.
Enjoy Silver service week those who are lucky enough to fly this week!
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I heard the same from November 29th. Terrible timing before Christmas, my thoughts are with the crew affected. I know how it feels, hope you find work again very soon.
Not the streamlining they hoped for I'm sure!
Not the streamlining they hoped for I'm sure!
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Sad news but no shock TBH
The ERJ is a great little aircraft,but costs divided be seats makes it uneconomical on all but special low volume charter and very thin business routes, hope they have more success with their new Norway routes in January.
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At a time when most World operators had been getting rid of their 145s and CRJ 200s ,BMIR announced they were launching a new airline with them..
Sadly it was only going to end one way, unless they have the capital to buy fuel efficient planes now ?
Nigel
Sadly it was only going to end one way, unless they have the capital to buy fuel efficient planes now ?
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They should try for something like the Sukhoi Superjet or Cseries or E-Jets and have a fully fitted business class etc (ala BMI) and try to pick up where BMI left off but on a much lesser scale.
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Extremely sad news for those facing either redundancy, life upheaval or lengthy commutes to get from home to their "new" base every day.
Regrettably, this had an air of inevitability about it. The strategy since the buy-out has lacked cohesion and the emerging route map bore all the hallmarks of a trip to a Routes development conference where each airport pitched a really good idea to bmi Regional for one based aircraft flying to X,Y,Z or A,B and C or M, N and O.
With the exception of Bristol and the existing core at Aberdeen, no critical mass was developed at any single base and there was also no synergy between overseas destinations to generate any sales and marketing economies of scale. You simply can't spend enough money in Gothenburg to find all of the people who might fly to Birmingham, in Zurich to find those who might fly to Edinburgh or in Milan to find those who might fly to Bristol. If you ran services from several UK points to one overseas destination, you can "own" the market more effectively. This has not been done and it's a failing which has directly led to today's decision - and a huge impact on a group of individual crew members who no doubt were optimistic and tried their hardest to make it work.
Unless the airline really concentrates on building up critical mass and a sustainable presence in a few core markets, instead of a route map which looks like a tin of spaghetti emptied over a map of Europe, this will be the first but not last such announcement.
Regrettably, this had an air of inevitability about it. The strategy since the buy-out has lacked cohesion and the emerging route map bore all the hallmarks of a trip to a Routes development conference where each airport pitched a really good idea to bmi Regional for one based aircraft flying to X,Y,Z or A,B and C or M, N and O.
With the exception of Bristol and the existing core at Aberdeen, no critical mass was developed at any single base and there was also no synergy between overseas destinations to generate any sales and marketing economies of scale. You simply can't spend enough money in Gothenburg to find all of the people who might fly to Birmingham, in Zurich to find those who might fly to Edinburgh or in Milan to find those who might fly to Bristol. If you ran services from several UK points to one overseas destination, you can "own" the market more effectively. This has not been done and it's a failing which has directly led to today's decision - and a huge impact on a group of individual crew members who no doubt were optimistic and tried their hardest to make it work.
Unless the airline really concentrates on building up critical mass and a sustainable presence in a few core markets, instead of a route map which looks like a tin of spaghetti emptied over a map of Europe, this will be the first but not last such announcement.
They should try for something like the Sukhoi Superjet or Cseries or E-Jets and have a fully fitted business class etc (ala BMI) and try to pick up where BMI left off but on a much lesser scale.
Unpleasant though redundancy may be, if you've been working for bmir for the last 12 months and not been trying to find a new job, the fault lies partly with you as well.
Generally, if a business is not making enough money, as long as an employer jumps through various procedural hoops (HR are good at ticking the boxes on this), the employer can ditch staff as and when they choose.
It therefore becomes the obligation of anyone joining a company, to evaluate whether they think the company will succeed. Doesn't matter that you've only been trained as cabin crew - it's always your personal job to figure out whether the company is doing well or not. Equally, if you're an employee, it's your job to decide whether you think the company will be able to afford to keep you. Yes, I know you may not be privy to secret information, but an employee of any company should be making their own judgment, regardless of what euphemisms and pleasantries management may say.
If you believe your employer is in trouble, you should actively be seeking a new job today. Neither management nor HR will show any loyalty to employees when profits are down. Any employees who show unquestioning loyalty to their employer are being, quite frankly, mugs.
Generally, if a business is not making enough money, as long as an employer jumps through various procedural hoops (HR are good at ticking the boxes on this), the employer can ditch staff as and when they choose.
It therefore becomes the obligation of anyone joining a company, to evaluate whether they think the company will succeed. Doesn't matter that you've only been trained as cabin crew - it's always your personal job to figure out whether the company is doing well or not. Equally, if you're an employee, it's your job to decide whether you think the company will be able to afford to keep you. Yes, I know you may not be privy to secret information, but an employee of any company should be making their own judgment, regardless of what euphemisms and pleasantries management may say.
If you believe your employer is in trouble, you should actively be seeking a new job today. Neither management nor HR will show any loyalty to employees when profits are down. Any employees who show unquestioning loyalty to their employer are being, quite frankly, mugs.
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