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Old 10th Sep 2012, 16:03
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Odd that Ryanair built PIK-STN from nothing to 8+ a day then without adding new domestics from Scotland to London, allowed the route to die. Also, out of GLA, I find EZY to be more expensive to LGW. A loco on some routes but not others in my experience.
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Old 10th Sep 2012, 22:23
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Capacity is shrinking and my own personal experience is that prices are increasing.
That capacity is shrinking is possibly true; and yes prices are probably very slowly creeping up. However pricing on short-haul flights is, for the most part, unsustainably low, and has been since EZY/FR and the gang moved in.

I'm slightly too young to remember what you would have paid a for a return LON-Scotland flight 20 years ago... 100? About the same as today, if not more. Given inflation, fuel costs, taxes/fees I'd say its a pretty good deal.

Its this pricing that has sadly ground airlines like BMIr into the ground. EZY/FR rely on the 'pile em high, sell em cheap' ethos and low overheads, BA rely on longhaul connections and business pax. BE sit rather uncomfortably in the middle... Hence they have been pushed out of the market.
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Old 11th Sep 2012, 10:21
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New source of customers found

Deal sealed for flippery Danish duo | allmediascotland…Your key to the media

Interesting cargo work.
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Old 11th Sep 2012, 10:58
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Without being flippernt, glad they managed to seal the deal.

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Old 11th Sep 2012, 11:17
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We're about 7 weeks away from the winter timetable with seemingly several aircraft with nothing to do and staff not knowing where they'll be flying to or from, if a all. Maybe I'm being unreasonable, but taking the above into account it's a bit off imo that the directors are appearing in the press to talk about transporting seals across the N Sea. What about he future of the airline, when's the news on that?
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Old 12th Sep 2012, 10:39
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Saatchi to lead on BMIr marketing campaign

Bmi Regional to launch marketing drive | ABTN


Also the new website goes live soon according to the above.


Money is definitly being spent now.
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Old 12th Sep 2012, 10:54
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"BMI Regional - streamlined for business"
Intentionally referring to downsizing????
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Old 12th Sep 2012, 11:00
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It's going to be very interesting to see the full timetable and business plan for bmir

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Old 12th Sep 2012, 17:02
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"BMI Regional - streamlined for business"
Intentionally referring to downsizing????

No I think they are obviously going for the business passenger, higher yield as opposed loco model which makes sense given the a/c type. Is the business there, that's the question as these are difficult times. Funnily enough the company was of course Business Air in the past, maybe things won't be much different as far as the business plan goes. So a core of schedule routes, some charter work and.......mail bags. At least no over the fence at 06:21 as the airport is open 24hrs.
Before anyone says you can't get mail bags in an Emb I am being a little tongue in cheek.
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Old 12th Sep 2012, 22:57
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'Streamlined for business'

This is all the wrong way round in my humble opinion. 'Streamlined for business' says three things to me.
1. A leaner more agile company borne out of the dying embers of what was once a good respected airline.
2. Emphasis on the business passenger
3. Regional is open for business

But when Joe Public navigates to bmiregional.com and they are diverted to flybmi.com (and the old booking engine), and click on the advertised 'where we fly' detailing flights to Baku, Belfast and Beirut, plus British Airways advertising, I can't but think this has been managed with little or no thought. The average punter will quickly discount point 1, 2 & 3 as they don't read the small print and go with the headline that bmi is sold to IAG and is now BA.

It would have made more sense to have the bmiregional.com website up and running before such a press release, at least like fastjet with a statement something like 'bmi regional - coming soon'.

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Old 14th Sep 2012, 13:20
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Old 15th Sep 2012, 10:58
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Originally Posted by Mod Kit
'Streamlined for business'

This is all the wrong way round in my humble opinion. 'Streamlined for business' says three things to me.
1. A leaner more agile company borne out of the dying embers of what was once a good respected airline.
2. Emphasis on the business passenger
3. Regional is open for business

But when Joe Public navigates to bmiregional.com and they are diverted to flybmi.com (and the old booking engine), and click on the advertised 'where we fly' detailing flights to Baku, Belfast and Beirut, plus British Airways advertising, I can't but think this has been managed with little or no thought. The average punter will quickly discount point 1, 2 & 3 as they don't read the small print and go with the headline that bmi is sold to IAG and is now BA.

It would have made more sense to have the bmiregional.com website up and running before such a press release, at least like fastjet with a statement something like 'bmi regional - coming soon'.
I think damned if they do announce stuff, damned if they don't. People baying for information but when they do, let's knock them. It's not the same situation as fastjet, they have an airline to run now as we speak and they need to use the old website so people can book flights to survive, whilst developing the new stuff alongside. They also need to get the name out there still, hence news of flying seals and advertising/branding contracts, it's the beginning of them saying 'Hello, we're still here!' there's no such thing as bad publicity as they say. If the web link had gone to a holding page then there's a danger customers might've stopped there and gone elsewhere. I imagine it's a difficult thing trying to reinvent yourself whilst being your old self.
Just my opinion!
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Old 16th Sep 2012, 23:04
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Point taken Cleaner - and I can see exactly where you are coming from. Anyway, you know whay 'they' say - its not true until you hear it from The Cleaner.
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Well if I was 'that' cleaner you all be 1st to know! I just hope whatever the plan is they succeed ;-)
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 11:21
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I've just noticed that flights to Brussels from LBA and EMA can no longer be booked through the Brussels Airlines website for travel after October. I guess this finally ends the relationship with STAR. Reduces these flights back to point-to-point, which is very sad. I suspect the same is true of EMA-FRA.

I do hope they get something sorted soon, preferably a tie up with somebody, which might be vaguely suggested by their 'business' emphasis in their new slogan.
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 19:48
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Presumably this is a daft question but why dont they start some of the EMA-FRA flights back from LBA?
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 20:22
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Manchester to Antwerp

Starting 28 October 2012 from Manchester to Antwerp on a 135. Twice daily on weekdays, once on Sat and Sun. (Amadeus.net)

Finally some better news for you guys!!!
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 20:52
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No way will MAN-ANR support 2 operators. As well as the MAN BRU services. Is your info accurate? Or are BM operating the route on behalf of AF (WX)?
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 20:59
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Cityjet are - or may have already - dropping MAN-Antwerp
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Last Cityjet flight was yesterday. Remember that also Flybe dropped BRU last week.

According to Amadeus.net:
MAN-ANR 0700 - 0920 BD1501 123456* ER3
ANR-MAN 0950 - 1010 BD1502 123456* ER3
MAN-ANR 1650 - 1910 BD1507 12345*7 ER3
ANR-MAN 1940 - 2000 BD1508 12345*7 ER3
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