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Old 17th May 2012, 13:32
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EasyJet had avg LFs of around 90% whilst at EMA but still packed up and left complaining of low yield
They were in direct competition with other operators, and I'm sure they also pursued a policy of minimum three aircraft at their bases? Either way I agree that yields are key to determine the financial success of any route.
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They were in direct competition with other operators
Yes but Easyjet are in competition with themselves from the services they already operate or could operate from other London Airports particularly Stansted. With BAA Stansted being sold the new operator will be looking at airports around it and seeing if they can offer a deal to attract business back to Stansted or new business that airports like Southend would be keen to get. When it comes to financial clout Sobart could find itself struggling for business if it goes head to head with the new owners of Stansted.

Luton was a victim of this many years ago when BAA enticed Ryanair and TNT to Stansted from Luton.

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With BAA Stansted being sold the new operator will be looking at airports around it and seeing if they can offer a deal to attract business back to Stansted or new business that airports like Southend would be keen to get.
One of the concerns that MAG have highlighted regarding STN is the over-reliance on the two main low-cost carriers.

Whether the easyjet operations impact, or are affected by, their STN flights remains to be seen.
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Rotterdam to SEN plans

New start-up airline hopes to create a new base at Rotterdam with several routes including SEN, using 2 based aircraft at Rotterdam (apparently F-50 or Jetstream 32 aircraft). Plans to put tickets on sale from 11th June 2012 with flights starting on the 17th September 2 x daily. Seems a bit more legit than other start-up airlines - but who really knows whether or not it is real or if it WILL actually start!?
Take a look - Europort Express - connecting you to Europort

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Old 19th May 2012, 11:54
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reminds me of the "failed to get off the ground" NOW Airlines who were to be based at LTN.
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Old 19th May 2012, 11:59
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As I recall being informed at the time NOW were to go in to direct competition with EZY and, indeed, their initial aircraft were to be ex EZY B737's which EZY were to return to the lessor.

Well somewhat unsurprisingly EZY extended the leases on those B737's putting NOW up sh1t creek and without a paddle.
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Old 19th May 2012, 12:14
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Southend gain at the expense of Stansted?

Passengers choose Southend over rival (From Echo)
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How could NOW have made money selling seats to TFS at the same price as those to say AMS ?? Europort Express will be in the same boat surely...
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The Echo fails to mention that Easyjet have reduced the frequency of the routes out of Stansted and that this reduction is now being flown from Southend because the three based aircraft were previously at Stansted. So it doesn't necessarily mean passengers are choosing Southend over Stansted.
Having said that, Southend have gained at Stansted's expense having the three ex-Stansted aircraft now based.
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Old 20th May 2012, 01:45
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Quote: "Southend gain at the expense of Stansted?

Passengers choose Southend over rival (From Echo)"

Not surprising, all things being equal, SEN has the advantages of a small, hassle-free, regional airport with a railway station attached.
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Old 20th May 2012, 05:42
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Not surprising, all things being equal, SEN has the advantages of a small, hassle-free, regional airport with a railway station attached.
You only have to see why after that brilliant song by Fasinating Aida!
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Cheap flights cheap flights!!
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Old 20th May 2012, 23:33
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I got back from Dublin visiting family this morning to Southend - living in Leigh it's so much better than going from Stansted as I used to, and I'll certainly be doing it again as it's a £10 taxi to home in Leigh.

I went Tuesday afternoon on an ATR42-300 (EI-BYO - this one in fact - Report: Aer Arann AT42 near Isle of Man on Oct 7th 2008, smoke in cabin) and came back this morning on an ATR72-500 (EI-REM) with a very bouncy and not very straight landing I have never been on a prop plane before (well, a more than 2 seater one) and found the ATR72 a much quieter experience.

Just 14 people going and about 12 coming back.
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Old 22nd May 2012, 12:04
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SEN's no-glass walkway

I flew to Ibiza and back with the family last week for £50 each and have no complaints about Easyjet, but two other issues I did have. Mainly on returning to SEN at 2230 it was only 10C and yet the walk from the furthest stand to the "warmth" of the tiny passport control room was subjected to the cold wind because the south facing part of the covered walkway is not glassed. For my elderly parents it's was a poor end to the holiday. Why is there no glass on the side of this walkway? The second is issue was how slow the handling agents were in Ibiza.....some of us (140pax) were queueing for one hour! I remain 100% a Southend supporter.
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Steve -

Out of interest has ei-byo been painted in aer lingus colours yet and does it have the new leather seat interior? Last time I saw it it was in a modified aer arann colour scheme.
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Smile The Jewel in Eddie's Crown

SEN is now officially the jewel in Stobart's crown.

Southend Airport: The jewel in Stobart's crown (From Echo)

.... why have Stobart got a crown, though.....?
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The Jewel in Eddie's Crown

Excellent news! CAX next?

Is this the template on how to get a small regional airport up and running d successful?
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Old 24th May 2012, 13:16
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Of course, Eddie's the King of Carlisle, isn't he.......
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Old 24th May 2012, 21:21
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Stobarts are doing a great job at sen but if some of you worked for them you would be shocked at the treatment of staff, no doubt the people working for them at sen will soon find out for themselves.
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Old 24th May 2012, 23:01
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