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Old 11th Mar 2012, 19:39
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 08:11
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The first weekly Ford charter to Istanbul departed this morning flown by a Germania A319. Nice to see an early demonstration of the increased runway distances paying dividends.
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 09:23
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Was the Germania operating the Istanbul or the Cologne?, only the Cologne shown on the departures page of the airport website although I would not be surprised if the website is out of date!
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 09:28
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Germania to Istanbul and Jet2 to Cologne this morning (both having positioned in last night) - looked very impressive parked side by side at the terminal.
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 09:39
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Cheers for that.

Guy I work with lives in Jersey and commutes each Friday and Monday from/to London - this morning his BA 737 couldnt get into Gatwick or Heathrow as the 737 needed 200m vis, and it was only 100m, so his flight has gone back to Jersey, hopefully in the not too distant future we will see lots of Gatwick or the other London airport flights divert in and use SEN
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 09:47
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Yes, I would think SEN will be a very attractive diversion location for LCY, STN, LGW and even LHR - but limited by aircraft type of course, although no doubt the subsequent take-off will be empty of passengers so A320s and 757s can join the A319s and 737-500s. I'm surprised the Jersey 737 didn't divert to SEN. Presumably it needs to appear on the airline's "radar". as it were.
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 09:57
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Has anyone ever considered that pilots may require special training to operate into SEN?
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 09:57
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Talking of diversions, this mornings RE flight from Waterford has just diverted to Birmingham. I would have thought with an RVR of 900 metres he would have made at least 1 attempt to get in, but a couple of laps around the hold and he requested a diversion.
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 10:01
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I was thinking that myself this morning-think 2 BA 737s went out of the hold to JER-one was a BA shuttle
SEN could well be very useful to small aircraft diversions-quite a few Flybe had to divert as well to MAN and BHX
Fog is lifting here now up to 600m at the moment!!
Stobart group have really impressed me with what they did to SEN
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 10:15
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SEN has been reporting 'overcast 100ft' all morning so I would assume that was the deciding factor rather than the RVR.

Its time will come before long no doubt.
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 10:56
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Yes you are right Charlie B the guy whose Gatwick flight returned to Jersey mentionedf that a BA shuttle from Manchester to Gatwick had just landed at Jer. And I am sure that in the future SEN will attract more diverts, maybe by next winter the airlines will have got used to the idea.
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 11:36
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Regarding attracting airlines to divert when necessary, situation not helped by the fact that the airport website still showing the old runway details on the operational part of their website! Come on Stobert IT get it sorted.
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 11:47
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The JER and MAN fts arrived back here safely just before 10.00-but weather at JER was showing FOG a little while ago
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 12:43
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The Depatures/Arrivals information on the SEN website unfortunately is not reliable. It omits the Jet 2, shows the wrong Germania flight and does not update Aer Arann. If you click on the Live Update Tracker link and read the disclaimer you will see why. SEN needs to get this feature sorted out.

Airlines do not rely on the website for their information on runway and radio aids. Their source is the UK AIP which was updated on March 8. However they only provide charts for selected airfields on board their aircraft. :Possibly some airlines have not yet got round to including SEN in their aircraft chart sets, hence crews may not be aware SEN is an approved diversion for them.

It is surprising to hear that Aer Arann did not make an approach in 900m RVR.
Approach ban is based on RVR not cloudbase. Overcast 100ft is certainly below DH, but it is not uncommon to achieve visual reference above the reported cloudbase, though I can't say that would have been the case today of course. Even so an approach, goaround and divert seems a better use of fuel than twice round the hold then divert !

Not all diverted flights will depart empty, e.g. some may arrive on a fuel-and-go basis. There will be no difficulty in a fully laden 757 or A320 departing SEN for LHR or for that matter many European airports.
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 15:21
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I have to agree regarding criticism of the SEN website.

It was never impressive but looked as if it was improving for a short time. Looks like Stobart need to renovate it to match the airport.
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 17:53
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I was also surprised the ATR diverted this morning.

As far as I could tell, he entered the hold at 3000ft and stayed at that level before deciding to divert. No attempt was made to explore the possibilities further.

Perhaps there were no pax to be inconvenienced?
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 19:23
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Whatever the reasoning was for not holding to await the anticipated improvement in conditions, I should think a considerable number of passengers were inconvenienced.
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 20:37
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Any idea how many Pax on the Istanbul this morning.
Intresting as this was prob 4hr flight ?.
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 20:50
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Flight time SEN-IST with an A319 I would estimate as in the region of 3hrs 20mins depending on the winds on the day.

Further to the comments on the diversion situation this morning I would add that if the SEN weather at the time was RVR 900m OVC001 then noone would have been tempted to divert to SEN with only a Cat 1 ILS.

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Old 12th Mar 2012, 21:01
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There have been more changes on the kontikisky website today. Flights on sale from Skopje, Constanta and Bucharest have been reduced to those within Eastern and Central Europe and to Italian destinations. The large number of flights from these points to Western Europe are now in the "coming soon" category. This includes CND-LTN. The text of the Antwerp announcement has been changed but the message is still the same.

SEN is still the new base. But this is sounding more and more like thread drift...
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