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Old 2nd Aug 2012, 10:00
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Old 2nd Aug 2012, 12:24
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Would you really want a bully like Ryanair to dominate SEN too. Easyjet a lot more civil to fly with and With allocated searing on the cards makes it even better too. Ryanair have a grip on most airports and ruin competition for others. Apparently they are down 20% according to new finances released. Keep SEN from going down that route I'd say
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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 07:25
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New Executive Handling Facilities

The new executive FBO facilities resulting from the re-development of the arrivals area in the old passenger terminal have now been completed and are open for business.

Photographs showing the facilities can be found at:

New FBO Facility at London Southend | Facebook
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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 16:00
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Online version of the TUI Story in the local paper.

Package holidays return to Southend (From Echo)
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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 16:42
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SEN to Carlisle

SEN to the Lake District likely to join SEN to the Med.....

Stobart gets go-ahead for Carlisle Lake District Airport (From The Westmorland Gazette)
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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 16:57
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Notice the Echo article is dated 1300 tomorrow !

Seems like good news day for Stobart - well deserved.
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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 17:15
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I liked this quote from Andrew Tinkler:

"Additional Group revenue streams will be realised as we link Carlisle and Southend airports to give passengers seamless connections to Europe.”

You have to hand it to Stobarts for their contrarian investment philosophy .

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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 17:19
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I wonder if easyjet has been lines up to start from here as well or maybe Ryanair has been approached
I don't think easyjet could sustain flights to Belfast from here but possibly regional could do a flight to BHD especially since EI is moving there
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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 22:31
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So if First Choice are coming what aircraft type would they use? Airbus 320 would appear to large??? Perhaps 737-700?
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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 23:58
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WORD HAS IT THAT THOMSON/FIRST CHOICE ARE GOING TO LEASE A GERMANIA A319,WHICH AT THE MOMENT IS ON A FORD MOTOR CONTRACT WITH SEN/STOBARTS.MAYBE THEY WILL OVERNIGHT AT SEN AFTER EITHER THE GERMANY OR THE TURKISH FLIGHT HAS RETURNED.READY FOR THE 07.30 FLIGHT TO PALMA ON THE TUESDAY.(HAVE EITHER AIRLINE GOT ANY A319s OR 737-5/6/700s)
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 05:02
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Unfortunately I think Mr Tinkler has a lot to learn about the aviation world i.e. ´seamless´´ went out of the window years ago. Does he honestly think he is going to make money on a Carlisle-Southend route? There again he might want to use it for tax reasons heaven forbid. I also have an interest in shipping and you want to hear some of the comments made in the shipping media about Stobart. For example quote ´´the company operates the Mersey Multimodal Gateway, a major inland port at Widnes´´ Widnes - a major inland port? - you are joking! Hasn´t seen a ship for ages.
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 06:31
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Unfortunately I think Mr Tinkler has a lot to learn about the aviation world i.e. ´seamless´´ went out of the window years ago. Does he honestly think he is going to make money on a Carlisle-Southend route? There again he might want to use it for tax reasons heaven forbid. I also have an interest in shipping and you want to hear some of the comments made in the shipping media about Stobart. For example quote ´´the company operates the Mersey Multimodal Gateway, a major inland port at Widnes´´ Widnes - a major inland port? - you are joking! Hasn´t seen a ship for ages.
No - Stobart's think they will make money out of the road freight depot they are going to build at CAX - the rest is window dressing to get the planning permission. The area isn't zoned for industrial development so they've had to give the city council a few shiny beads. The airport development is the 'carrot' for the council, while the stick is the threat of moving the entire Stobart's operation out of Cumbria and down to Widnes. Any airline route development is a minor, peripheral consideration. Anyway, based on previous history, this process has a long way to run before the first spade turns over any earth...

And now back to SEN!
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 06:40
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Cant wait for the CAX route, I live in Essex and my family live in Cumbria, to take the car costs a bomb and takes about five and a half long hours.

As long as I can book a return flight for around £100 ill be more than happy .
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 08:36
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They might get good passenger loads if they use a Cessna 172
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 15:03
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They might get good passenger loads if they use a Cessna 172
Why don't you go back to Luton and stew in your own juices there
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 18:03
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Quite agree SWBKCB about the road freight depot it is the aviation side that concerns me. Sorry to say IMHO it just will not work - why he put all that money into Aer Arrean God only knows. I suppose the old maxim comes to mind - how do you make your first million in aviation - start with 2 million!
AeroMad don´t be so touchy - LTNman probably only joking - maybe an upgrade to a Piper PA-31 Navajo if demand warrants!
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 18:24
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A Dragon Rapide would be even better...
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 19:40
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Yeah Aeromad has no sense of humour which put a big smile on my face at the thought of his tormented post
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 19:54
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A sense of humour is indeed a vital asset, but when another poster with a history of slagging off somewhere which is ultimately proving to be jolly successful makes frankly silly comments to be passed off as 'jokes', I'm afraid I simply don't see what there is to laugh at... the fact is that an ATR 42 will probably easily be filled on SEN-CAX. The only possible 'torment' being suffered is that arising from Southend's success

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Old 4th Aug 2012, 19:59
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Aeromad -

ATR42 - say 40 seats.
Twice daily Mon-Fri, once at weekends = 12 flights a week. (Fewer would make the route unattractive to business users)
12 x 40 = 480 passengers each way, each week, every week, even November and February.
That's a very big ask, especially at decent yields.
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