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Old 9th Jun 2012, 08:37
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Yes, that's the new SEN. Taken from the ramp outside the new passenger terminal, looking across to one of the spray and maintenance areas. The eclectic mix of types and colour schemes has always made SEN interesting. The extended runway might allow larger types to visit empty - that's a good point.
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But the runway width may eliminate wide-bodies except, perhaps, by authority dispensations!
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True enough. I remember a Tristar landing on the old runway, but it left in very small pieces.....they were different days. Perhaps an A330 will be able to land, and take off, from the extended runway - but they would need special permission.
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BM,

A certain SC5 operator, shortly before they went bankrupt, decided on a cost saving measure of performing A300-B4 maintenance at their SEN facility, well an A300 might be considered an old fashioned A330, the nonsense they had to go through, test landings in Manston, training Captain(s) only etc, before the CAA (Campaign Against Aviation) would allow them A300 ferry flights in/out SEN ... and due to SEN's runway width rather than length.

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Old 9th Jun 2012, 21:19
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3 questions.

1,how wide is the runway? 2,how much wider would it need to be to take a wider bodied jet? 3,would it be possible to add the extra width to the present runway/taxiways without causing to much agro?
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Rumour has it, a certain Kazakhstan operator is interested in using a large maintainence operator based at Southend on their 76's to join the rest of the fleet that has its maintainence undertaken at SEN. Main thing holding them back is the hangar size, not the runway length nor width.
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Old 9th Jun 2012, 21:34
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Always worth bearing in mind the thorn on the side which is the D138 complex.

It is unlikely to go away in the foreseeable future and it could restrict further growth.
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The Southend runway width is 37m. It cannot be widened due to limitations of the runway strip width requirement. The runway strip is already infringed by the church and there is a dispensation in place to take account of it.

An empty B767 positioning to or from maintenance would have no performance difficulties operating at SEN. Boeing recommended crosswind limits for a standard 45m runway are valid for runway widths down to 35m for a B767. The 06 turning circle looks inadequate for a 767-300 in which case a 06 departure or a 24 arrival would require the assistance of a pushback truck. This would close the runway while the operation was being carried out.

As regards hangar size some operators use movable enclosures that effectively increase the size of aircraft that can be accommodated, though I cannot say if this would be feasible at SEN due to site limitations.

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Also I believe that some of the taxiways are not the "standard width" so could not even handle a 737.
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Old 10th Jun 2012, 08:05
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Wow! Someone ought to tell Jet2 and Germania who have been operating 737-300s on the Ford services since January....... Maybe you mean 737-800s? I hope that's true, so that Ryanair won't be tempted intop SEN.
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Old 10th Jun 2012, 09:21
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Southend Airport Horse Race?

Now here's some innovative advertising for the SEN to DUB schedule, following on from the flash dance (or whatever you'd call it) at Lakeside shopping centre:

Racecard | 16:00 Fly London Southend To Dublin Levy Board Handicap | Newmarket | Sky Sports Horse Racing

Let's hope the load factors show this is money well spent.....
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The published taxiway widths at SEN are 15m for A and C, 27m for B. 15m is in accordance with airport Code 3C design parameters for all variants of the 737.

One issue that may arise with taxiway C is that the section parallel with the runway is less than the required separation from the runway centreline under Code 3C design criteria. Presumably this is not of great operational significance at present but maybe if and when traffic volume rises significantly from present levels Stobarts will wish to address it.

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The airport Holiday Inn currently under construction is due to open in the last week of July, adding yet another key feature to SEN's redevelopment.
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Latest passenger fuigures, for May 2012, show:

Cologne 192
Dublin 3497
Waterford 3138
Amsterdam 11783
Faro 8253
Alicante 7138
Barcelona 7111
Ibiza 2975
Malaga 7010
Palma 3792
Istanbul 398

Difficult to believe the transformation in SEN's scheduled service fortunes since those quiet years, so recent in the memory, when only a flyBE Dash 8 disturbed the peace on a Saturday...... Brilliant!!!!
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Provisional passenger numbers for May SOUTHEND 66783
year so far 146294
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 10:10
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I forgot the two domestic destinations:

Belfast 7974
Jersey 3269
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All good. Dublin only operated for 20 days so would be more like 5000 pax on a 30 day month and didn't affect Waterford which correct me if I'm wrong has never before topped 3000? I'm sure the other routes must be hitting Stansted. Now lets wait for the "they need to make yield" mob to start posting on here!
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Really is getting impressive, and we're still not at peak times yet.

My only gripe is opposite to most folk - despite living only two miles from SEN (NW) I hardly see anything these days since the runway extension means they lift later. Used to have the ATRs overhead but don't see them now.
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Does anyone have an idea on load factors for those routes? Particularly domestic and Ireland. I'm not familiar with the schedules so am struggling to get an idea.
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DUB had a LF of 55% for first 22 days of operation, Rugby match in London would of helped.

WAT had LF of 59% from what I can see.
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