160to4DME

Transavia UK; now that would be a surprise.....

Montezuma

Let me see: Air France are cost cutting to save billions of € and looking to off load KLM.

But, Pierre et Marcel, Bonjour matelots, seeing the opportunity, bon chance, to take over an ailing low cost carrier with 14 antique 737s and les grand losses, dip their pain au chocolat into their cafe over le petit dejeuner and have a brainstorm - mais non - a stroke of genius....

"Pierre, ecoute mois"
" Nous must acheter la bebe de bmi plus vite parceque c'est un tres bon deal"
" Mais oui, Marcel,j'aime les cochons dans les pokes"

apaul

KLM has already had experience of losing money with Buzz. Why would it want to get hold of bmibaby and rack up more losses?

toledoashley

I like the Wizzair idea! Still think it will be Eddie Stobart though.

MKY661

That would be cool, although remember what happened to the Danish company?

Hope Bmibaby gets a good buyer

Binder

You see I like Wizzair; But then I like Eddie Stobart too.

But which one is better?

There's only one way to find out..............



Binder

md80forum

My guess is that the buyer is a joint-venture to be formed by Finnair and AirBerlin.

j636

Ryanair is tight-lipped over Bmibaby takeover | This is Leicestershire

bluepilot

god help you guys if it is Ryanair, look at what they did with BUZZ, it will be painful and harsh.

runway30

The Western Mail have named the UK business that signed a term sheet as "Flyforbeans".

Welsh aviation firm in running to acquire low-fare carrier Bmibaby - Business News - Business - WalesOnline

The Eternal JP

Love this article. In the space of 4 paragraphs it goes from basing 2 ac at Cardiff, so then quoting the bases would remain the same.................genius!!

bcn_boy

It states that the existing bases would remain plus possibly two aircraft based in Cardiff. Your point is?

rareair

Never mind Buzz,

look at what they did (allegedly) with Air Polonia....

Surely it's in FR's interest for baby to be wound up at zero cost to them, and then move in quickly to fill any capacity gaps.

carlrsymington

Not in the business but...

Ryanair could be stringing all the players along to make life difficult for all.

1. Potential buyers would know that they are not the only candidate, possibly increasing the cost of a deal.
2. LH may or may not be keen to sell to Ryanair but if they thought "money" was there then maybe.
3. Finally, Ryanair could just pull-out near the end and leave all of the players high and dry. No buyer, no sale, BA get a reduced price.

Not sure of the legalities but Ryanair would play it mean.

BTW - I'm a baby supporter, flew 'em last month and going to Portugal at end of month.

runway30

There is only one thing wrong with this Ryanair theory, Ryanair is a single airline, it is not an "airline group".

Cyrano

There is no apparent basis to the Ryanair story. The newspaper article didn't adduce any facts or give any reason to believe that Ryanair might be interested. It essentially said "bmibaby is for sale. We asked Ryanair if they were interested and they said 'no comment.' COULD RYANAIR BE INTERESTED?" Slow news day I fear.

BTW I agree with a previous poster: why would Ryanair bother? They don't need bmibaby. I thought the suggestion of ASL was more plausible. Maybe entirely fictitious , but at least more plausible.

caaardiff

FFB have never had any aircraft and I don't think had an AOC.
There was a lot of talk in Welsh aviation at the time of how things were progressing, routes and a/c types had been discussed, they were (possibly still are) a registered business and even recruitment had started. But the market went to pot and the people involved went on to do other things, but are said to still be well in the loop.
WW's setup is the ideal setup to what FFB wanted. FFB were going to be a startup basing in CWL at first, which some (most) would argue is a risk in itself. However WW are a ready made airline. With new ideas and structure could be moulded into what FFB wanted.
I would like to think the idea of FFB isn't that far off the mark. But anything is possible. The whole article could just be speculation blown out of proportion.

MCFARH

With regards to why Ryanair want WW, The only reason comes to mind is that FR are stuggling to get Captains, no sooner do FO's reach command level they are promoted. And with taking on WW flight crew have the ability to fly 738 without much more trainning required. With regards to cabin crew, Ryanair have a high turnover in crew each year im sure having a further 450 (already based) wouldnt be much hassle to them.

However all a theory.. Waiting game ;-)

G-AWZK

One word; Buzz.

Business is business, and at the end of the day Lufthansa will decide based on what is best for them and their shareholders. To think they care about staff retention when it is no longer their responsibility, is being a tad naeive.

inky, I am not having a go at you, but if Ryanair put the best financial package on the table that costs DLH the least to unload the company that is what will happen. I am not saying that Ryanair are negotiating ( I find it unlikely), but they do have a well documented shortage of experienced crews and with Emirates specifically targeting Ryan crews, this is a situation that will get worse for them. I can see the logic in another airline buying WW just for the experienced flightdeck.

FR-

Your right inkjet, even Im leaving! I already have my start date with another airline. Ryanair have already put memos about unpaid leave again for winter 2012/13. Your also right we are well trained with regards to SEP/SOP but not customer service, I disagree with the highly motivated crews, with all this forced unpaid leave, and push on sales sales sales, many have just had enough and most crew actually hate the company and head office managers.

If Ryanair took on Baby good luck to the crews.

fr-