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Old 28th Mar 2012, 09:18
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Monarch to launch new winter sun and ski flights - Travelmole, 28 Mar 2012

Originally Posted by jamesferns
Where are the crew offices now located are thry near the MON engineers on stand 214?
I'm not sure which stand it is by but if you know where the Thomson offices are then it is next to them. Basically, if you take the escalator in T2 above where the Monarch check in desks are, turn right into the restricted staff area at the entrance to security and follow the corridor as far down and left then you won't be far out.
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Old 28th Mar 2012, 12:59
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Thanks partyboy sounds like its near the driving training offices.

BTW, I was talking to one of your engineers the other day and he was saying the 737 NG is more than likely off the table and MON are looking at more airbuses any truth in that?
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Old 28th Mar 2012, 14:21
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The honest truth is I have no idea what the fleet make up will be. I try my best to ignore any rumours. The company have said they will make an announcement before too long.

As an entirely personal point of view, I don't see how Boeing short/medium haul aircraft would fit alongside the many Airbus it already has. Just my two pennies worth.
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Old 28th Mar 2012, 16:01
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The company have said they will make an announcement before too long.
and have been saying that since about this time last year. Wonder if there will be another event to announce it
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I think it will be GVA, GNB, INN & SZG that will become the new routes (I know they do it charter though). Possibly CMF as well.

BTW, I was talking to one of your engineers the other day and he was saying the 737 NG is more than likely off the table and MON are looking at more airbuses
I know this is not a rumour but since MON just aquired two ex TOM A320's do you think they might get the TOM's A321's and other A320 as they are due to leave the TOM fleet. Just a suggestion like.
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Old 28th Mar 2012, 16:45
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Good to see MON expanding, Must say i think they are a great outfit i deal a bit with the crews and the engineers and they always appear a very professional and friendly bunch
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When they say 10 new scheduled routes, do they mean from all of their bases put together?

Really pleased that Monarch is entering these markets, especially in the quieter winter period where summer routes are not as popular or do not operate
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Old 28th Mar 2012, 21:20
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M-P67,

Judging by previous form, they mean 10 routes in total.

Can't imagine GVA being on the list as EZY seem to have that sewn-up with Topswiss.
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Looks like a Corsair 747 positioning into MAN right now on a ZB callsign, maybe going to do a MAN-SSH. Also a Pulmantur 747 doing the LGW-SAN. Wouldn't have thought ZB would be short of aircraft this early in the season.(?)
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Old 31st Mar 2012, 09:26
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MOD contracts and over-running maintenance the cause, I believe.
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Old 31st Mar 2012, 16:28
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So everyone still happy to laud the 'lucrative' MoD contracts now we've blown several hundred grand on two 744s.

Another blinding decision by Mr two-titles

Jamesferns - you deal with crews and engineers 'a bit' yet you know exactly how much money MON make on MoD. Another fantasist.
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Old 31st Mar 2012, 17:16
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Same old, same old......

MOD contracts at the expense of all other flights (which does not exclude making short notice cancellations), is why I avoid ZB like the plague and have done for several years now. It's nothing new.

The MOD are more important to them than the fare paying passenger, who they have no qualms about inconveniencing and sub chartering aircraft tomove them...if you are lucky.

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Old 31st Mar 2012, 17:46
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It would appear to me that you have a more cost efficent method of utilising our various aircraft on the wide range of flying that they are required to carry out.............would you like to elaborate on how you propose this should happen?

Im quite sure you have detailed all your thoughts on an isuggest report to KG.............so it should be fairly simple to paste it here for us all to read and comment on.

Funnily enough, I have just returned from a sporting event this afternoon, where a gentleman sat next to me was very quick to criticize the performance of our team manager...........easy thing to do of course, chastising from the sidelines, telling us all how it would be so much more succesful if they were in charge...........

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Old 31st Mar 2012, 18:33
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Actually egon old boy my BIL is a civil servant who is involved with the MOD in the procurement of aircraft for trooping flights so i know exactly what the costs involved are and they are real money spinners for the airlines involved , which is why MON are so keen to tender for this work

Further, The reason the 747 was subbed is down to one of the A300,s suffering tech problems which may take some time to rectify , Not MOD work, Suprised you were unaware of that fact ...then again maybe im not
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Old 31st Mar 2012, 18:47
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The problem is james, that these days whatever spin is put on delays and cancellations at ZB, even if it is the truth, it is not believed.
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Old 31st Mar 2012, 19:56
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IB4138 you seem to have had some bad experiences with ZB flights. How many have been cancelled? I don't have the figures myself but at the moment it seems the sub charter is due tec reasons not greed. At least they have arranged alternative transport, at no doubt great expense, and not cancelled the flight.
The MOD work is predominantly on the 330 and therefore does not greatly impact the ZB schedule.
In my experience even at times of huge disruption due wx or industrial action Mon will continue to send the ZB's no matter how late or how many crews are required if it is physically possible to do so when other company's crews are being stood down and sent home with mass cancellations and no provision for the unlucky pax.
I am at a loss to understand where you're opinion of the scheduled service comes from unless you think that ZB covers all MON flights? It doesn't, it's only the scheduled part.
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Old 31st Mar 2012, 20:07
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I can only say albeit as a employee of a mere handling agent ive never seen the ZB program so busy at MAN at this time of year and the loads were excellent l so they must be doing something right, same story at BHX as well i hear
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Old 31st Mar 2012, 20:25
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I have developed this view of ZB/MON by experience over the last ten years.
No on the day cancellations, but several short notice ones and sod the extra expense that the passenger incurs by their actions.

Maybe, having been used to the old Crown Service of 20+ years ago, I see now a very sub standard service, compared to what used to be, being sold as a scheduled service.

I do not choose to place my business with ZB/MON, unless it is a matter of last resort.

You reap what you sow. My family and I have had abysmal treatment from this mob in the last 10 years.

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Old 31st Mar 2012, 20:54
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gunka, IB4138 is a MON-bashing troll (not unlike egon)

It would be nice if some specifics were posted alongside the vitriol but there never is.

I think the clue is in the name and that there is a link to Iberia in some way.

It's doubtful that you can hark back to the old Crown service of 20 years ago as I was under the impression that scheduled services only commenced in 1996?
Unless you're referring to the old tour op service, a different product.

Please define the "abysmal" service that you've had please, just so we can see what your definition of abysmal is.

I'll define it on my side. I arrived into LHR with BA 45 mins ahead of schedule. It then took us 1hr 20mins to be parked on a remote stand. Another hour to be coached to the terminal. 6 hours for the baggage to be removed from the aircraft as "all the loaders were busy". That's my definition.

Yours?
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Old 31st Mar 2012, 21:01
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Tart. ZB started in 1986.

Shows what you know.
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