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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 20:31
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GIB FLIGHTS

The Sunday Manchester-Gib timings seem not to tie up with the other schedules. The Luton service operates to and from Gib not as a W pattern so does the Birmingham service. Manchester-Gib starts and finishes at Manchester but it has to be operated by an A320 but am I right in thinking there will be no A320s based there. The last time I flew from Gib to Luton I talked to the flight deck crew and they were not too happy spending some 3 plus hours in a minibus on the M1/M6 positioning to/from Manchester but as the captain said ´´needs must´´.
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Thanks for that, Fixed now. Knew that there were 21 A321's but missed one out without knowing because I thought I put 21. Silly Me. I've put the extra A321 at LGW because it has lost an A300 this summer. I'm not sure when the two A321's from Cyprus Airways are coming though but I would say second half of 2013

I believe LGW has the most seats or flights this summer, overtaking MAN (or did that happen last summer?).
I don't think this happened at all. MAN has been Monarch's biggest base for a while. Not sure how long this will last though as there are no new routes from MAN this year, all of them have been operated before. Hopefully next year new routes will be introduced. Heraklion I think would be good as there are currently no scheduled routes from Manchester to Greece with Monarch. I think Funchal, Split & Bordeaux have potential too.

The Sunday Manchester-Gib timings seem not to tie up with the other schedules. The Luton service operates to and from Gib not as a W pattern so does the Birmingham service. Manchester-Gib starts and finishes at Manchester but it has to be operated by an A320 but am I right in thinking there will be no A320s based there. The last time I flew from Gib to Luton I talked to the flight deck crew and they were not too happy spending some 3 plus hours in a minibus on the M1/M6 positioning to/from Manchester but as the captain said ´´needs must´´.
I have just checked flights from MAN-GIB on Sunday 14th July 2013. The MAN-GIB flight departs at 14:55 and arrives at 18:55. However the GIB-MAN flight departs at 11:15 nd arrives at 13:15 which means a W pattern must take place. I am also not a fan of the W pattern becauuse if you are on board the MAN-GIB flight and the LTN-GIB flight diverts then you are basically screwed. I would prefer it if there was a morning flight from MAN-GIB and an evening flight from GIB-MAN because the we get to spend another whole day there rather than coming/going home early.

Someone said on the Gibraltar thread that Monarch were in talks of starting a new route from GIB to Scotland.
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 21:55
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Ex-Cyprus A321's

The ex Cyprus Airways A321's are due around the middle of April to enter service for the summer schedule starting 1/5/13. EMA is still showing through the website and other places as A320's for summer 2013 as it stands currently.

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CPT3B, the GIB flights in the past have occasionally been operated by 321s, and regularly by 757s, although not for a while.
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Monarch will never plan A321s into GIB, this is due to a very large reduction in passenger numbers required.
The A321 would only operate in an emergency.
EMA will be a A321 operation for the summer.
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 16:04
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The GIB flights from MAN and BHX are W Patterns:

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BHX/GIB 0535/0830 ZB446
GIB/MAN 0915/1215 ZB575

MAN/GIB 1355/1655 ZB574
GIB/BHX 1740/2035 ZB447

The LTN/GIB/LTN is not a W pattern flight with the usual 45min turnaround.
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I DO know the LTN-GIB flights are not W patterns as I fly quite regularly on the service. What I was trying to explain is that there is a Manchester service which needs an A320 which does not fit in with either a Birmingham or a Luton schedule!
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I DO know the LTN-GIB flights are not W patterns as I fly quite regularly on the service. What I was trying to explain is that there is a Manchester service which needs an A320 which does not fit in with either a Birmingham or a Luton schedule!
They are W patterns, but only on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in the summer season. This winter there are A320's based at MAN so there is no W pattern. I am a regular traveler on the MAN-GIB service.
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 20:25
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The LTN-GIB service last summer was a W pattern. The above flight times are based on Sunday flight times throughout this summer and as you can see illustrated the MAN service is a W pattern with the BHX service. I haven't looked at the other days yet.
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Monarch are to increase flights from Birmingham to Barcelona from 4pw to Daily:
2013 News - Flights - Monarch Airlines announces daily flight from Birmingham Airport to Barcelona | Flights News

Also found out (thanks to Mr. @ Spotty M) that it will be 2 A321's at East Midlands this summer. It will be the two ex Cyprus Airways aircraft.
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Old 14th Mar 2013, 11:55
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G-ZBAA currently scheduled TLS-LTN departing 1500Z today.
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Old 14th Mar 2013, 19:00
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For some reason Monarch's new sharklet fitted Airbus A320's are going to be stationed at the new LBA base which opens next Friday.

Routes News - Monarch adds new A320 at Leeds Bradford

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This is what Monarch tend to do when they recieve new aircraft. In 2009 & 2010 the 2 Ex EasyJet A321's were based in Manchester. In 2012, the two Ex First Choice A320's were based in Birmingham. This year the two A320's with sharklets will be based at Leeds/Bradford and the 2 Ex. Cyprus A321's will be based at East Midlands. I'm not sure where the other new aircraft are being based (if they are being based at a pacticular base)
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The reason could be performance related!
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Old 14th Mar 2013, 20:27
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Monarch - 3

Maybe LBA is ZB's northern most base for S13 and it makes sense to put your new fuel efficient machines on your longest routes.
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I've heard it was to do with seat Configuration. Well it was with the 2 Ex Easyjet A321's.
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It has nothing to do with seat configuration, fuel efficiency or extra range.
It is a pure and simple marketing move, this to go head to head with its main opposition, that operates old airframes.
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Grrr

This did make me chucle "It is a pure and simple marketing move, this to go head to head with its main opposition, that operates old airframes."

And Monarch don't! If this airframe stays with Monarch, it could be retired in 2035 or even later based upon new airframe purchases in the past.

Don't you just love PR spin, but I DO like (the people at) Monarch!
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Does anyone know which aircraft is due to be used on MON6382 MAN-GOI tomorrow as my folks are on the flight?
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The Goa is an A330
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