Monarch - 3
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Bury St Edmunds
Posts: 1
My first post - I've seen FANS obsession with Monarch on these threads and up until now there seemed to be no need to actually start abusing people. Monarch have now been cleared to operate by the CAA for another 12 months and now the abuse has started. It smacks of a bitter ex-employee to me (Possibly sacked or made redundant). I could be wrong but I can see no other reason why someone would have so much hatred for a company. Definitely not a disgruntled passenger as they would just say as much, and for some reason I don't think he/she works for a rival airline. Monarch have really upset this person and they are clearly gutted that they have survived. Obviously none of know for sure what the future is for Monarch but I could say the same for the majority of companies out there, but for now they are in business and while they are in business they always have a chance of making a success of it. I hope they make it - flown with them many times and have been generally very happy with them.
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Not at EK :)
Posts: 532
Glad to see things are better at Monarch. They offer a great product and I have enjoyed using and will continue to use them. Amazed at seeing people happy to see the misfortune of others. In this light, I have just booked three tickets to show my support. Well done to Monarch and good luck to all our colleagues for the future.
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: BHX
Posts: 305
I fear the recent positive news regarding Monarch may have tipped poor FANS over the edge if his last rather unhinged post is anything to go by , Further bads news for him is by all accounts bookings are holding up well
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: outer hebrides
Posts: 201
Greybull went from not wanting to put in 35m a few months ago, before BREXIT, currency turmoil and fuel heading northwards to stumping up 165m. Yeah, okay pull the other one. My guess is there is an awful lot of smoke and mirrors here. Its great that Monarch have been saved but there is still a heck of a way to travel before they are out of the woods!
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 21
CONSUMER GOODS AND RETAIL | Wed Sep 28, 2016 | 5:05am EDT
BRIEF-Hainan HNA Infrastructure Investment plans to invest 1.35 bln yuan to set up JV
Hainan Hna Infrastructure Investment Group Co Ltd
* Says it plans to invest 1.35 billion yuan ($202.35 million)to set up investment joint venture
BRIEF-Hainan HNA Infrastructure Investment plans to invest 1.35 bln yuan to set up JV
Hainan Hna Infrastructure Investment Group Co Ltd
* Says it plans to invest 1.35 billion yuan ($202.35 million)to set up investment joint venture
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Caribbean
Posts: 344
FANS,
Despite the "Trumpesque " degeneration of the tone of your argument, and the fact that you are undoubtably seeking "death by mod," you are of course entitled to your opinion, where those opinions don't require the vehicle of profanity or insult to lend them gravitas.
The suggestion that Monarch is in some way a bad employer couldn't be any further from the truth. Even when this particular trauma surfaced a fortnight ago, every employee had been paid just two days prior. I am in my fourth decade as an employee, and there is a very long list of people who have been employees far longer than I have. In 48 years they have never run payroll one single day late. Not one! Whatever criticism you might level at the business, being a "bad employer" is simply ludicrous!
As a pilot, There has never been one single occaission when I felt I didn't have the support of the companies management. And the one single thing (besides paying on time) that I admire them for, is their support and practicality. There has always been a mutual respect in that Captains are employed as responsible people doing a responsible job. To that end, sound decisions are always supported, even when with the benefit of hindsight, they weren't necessarily the best ones. I am sure there have been no end of times when we haven't annoyed the hell out of each other, but there has always been a mutual respect, acceptance, tolerance, support and friendship.
This is a company that has decades of offering apprenticeship training in engineering, sales, management, as well as pilots. Literally thousands of young people have been brought from school and offered not simply "jobs" but whole of life careers.
If I had to leave tomorrow it would be with a very heavy heart. Given the chance to do it all again, I would do it in a heartbeat. Whilst I can only speak for myself, I am certain that the vast majority of the people I work with feel exactly the same way. Even through the stressfull restructure of the company in 2014 and the further uncertainties of the last fortnight, work has still been a great place to be.
So by all means voice your opinion and criticise as you see fit. However your contention that this company is a bad employer or doesn't care about its employees simply belies even the most basic tenet of truth and in turn weakens your other opinions in its wake.
Despite the "Trumpesque " degeneration of the tone of your argument, and the fact that you are undoubtably seeking "death by mod," you are of course entitled to your opinion, where those opinions don't require the vehicle of profanity or insult to lend them gravitas.
The suggestion that Monarch is in some way a bad employer couldn't be any further from the truth. Even when this particular trauma surfaced a fortnight ago, every employee had been paid just two days prior. I am in my fourth decade as an employee, and there is a very long list of people who have been employees far longer than I have. In 48 years they have never run payroll one single day late. Not one! Whatever criticism you might level at the business, being a "bad employer" is simply ludicrous!
As a pilot, There has never been one single occaission when I felt I didn't have the support of the companies management. And the one single thing (besides paying on time) that I admire them for, is their support and practicality. There has always been a mutual respect in that Captains are employed as responsible people doing a responsible job. To that end, sound decisions are always supported, even when with the benefit of hindsight, they weren't necessarily the best ones. I am sure there have been no end of times when we haven't annoyed the hell out of each other, but there has always been a mutual respect, acceptance, tolerance, support and friendship.
This is a company that has decades of offering apprenticeship training in engineering, sales, management, as well as pilots. Literally thousands of young people have been brought from school and offered not simply "jobs" but whole of life careers.
If I had to leave tomorrow it would be with a very heavy heart. Given the chance to do it all again, I would do it in a heartbeat. Whilst I can only speak for myself, I am certain that the vast majority of the people I work with feel exactly the same way. Even through the stressfull restructure of the company in 2014 and the further uncertainties of the last fortnight, work has still been a great place to be.
So by all means voice your opinion and criticise as you see fit. However your contention that this company is a bad employer or doesn't care about its employees simply belies even the most basic tenet of truth and in turn weakens your other opinions in its wake.
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Blighty
Posts: 4,212
Gatwick - Kittila
Anyone know what's happening with the Gatwick - Kittila / Lapland route ?
Flights seem to be available on some dates (e.g. half term in Feburary) for the sector from London to Finland, but the sector from Finland to London doesn't have availability on any dates at all
Are we perhaps about to see the route being cancelled ?
Flights seem to be available on some dates (e.g. half term in Feburary) for the sector from London to Finland, but the sector from Finland to London doesn't have availability on any dates at all
Are we perhaps about to see the route being cancelled ?
Last edited by davidjohnson6; 14th Oct 2016 at 03:14.
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: N/A
Posts: 3,547
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Monarch Secures £165m Investment
Posted on 13/10/2016 - 11:10
Doubts over the immediate future of Monarch Airlines have subsided after the British carrier confirmed a £165m ($201m) cash injection from majority shareholder Greybull Capital yesterday (October 12).
In a statement, Luton-headquartered Monarch said the investment from Greybull, which first bought its stake in Monarch in 2014 to the tune of £125m ($152m), resulted in the successful renewal of its ATOL licences from the CAA for the next 12 months while also funding future growth plans which include the addition of new aircraft.
Fleet expansion plans include an October 2014 order for 30 737MAX aircraft with 15 options.
The first of the Boeing narrowbodies is expected for delivery in 2018. Andrew Swaffield, CEO of the Monarch Group, said the airline is now “firmly focused” on the future as a stronger operation.
Posted on 13/10/2016 - 11:10
Doubts over the immediate future of Monarch Airlines have subsided after the British carrier confirmed a £165m ($201m) cash injection from majority shareholder Greybull Capital yesterday (October 12).
In a statement, Luton-headquartered Monarch said the investment from Greybull, which first bought its stake in Monarch in 2014 to the tune of £125m ($152m), resulted in the successful renewal of its ATOL licences from the CAA for the next 12 months while also funding future growth plans which include the addition of new aircraft.
Fleet expansion plans include an October 2014 order for 30 737MAX aircraft with 15 options.
The first of the Boeing narrowbodies is expected for delivery in 2018. Andrew Swaffield, CEO of the Monarch Group, said the airline is now “firmly focused” on the future as a stronger operation.
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 917
POC you seem to have conviently forgotten those s***td by the PREVIOUS owners, in respect of the DB pension scheme. Just pointing out in that respect not a lot of care was taken of the loyal long term employees.
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: France
Age: 76
Posts: 6,365
Flew to Cyprus with Monarch last year. Was most impressed by their attitude and helpfulness - take off delayed by an hour as a couple of glass cockpit items needed replacing so captain invited kids of all ages to have a look at the cockpit while we waited. I had never seen a glass cockpit so joined the queue - a youngish mother even offered to be my "mum" - turned out captain was former Victor pilot so we had an interesting chat until the engineers turned up. I wish them well.
