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Old 20th Jun 2014, 20:43
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What makes you think early slots?
Just because an announcement is due shortly, it does not imply anything, deliveries could be 2020 and beyond.
It could mean slots in the next few years for existing models, before NEO or MAX deliveries, if we go that way.
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Old 20th Jun 2014, 21:31
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So lease of standard models as of now, then change of arrangement to lease/purchase of the new models when initial service bugs are sorted out?

New aircraft usually have bugs and problems, so hedge the bets. A320/neo for a year or two, whilst waiting for the Canadairs to get the aircraft to a decent spec instead of the basic, normal, overweight, niggle prone first few production aircraft?

Or am I reading too much into this?

By A320, I also mean the whole A318-21 family, with the exchange to neo....
Winglets/Sharklet changes included.....
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Old 20th Jun 2014, 21:41
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Thanks for the prompt reply, it was a question not a statement ! about slots 2020 is an awful long time off
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Old 21st Jun 2014, 06:46
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You are reading to much into it.
Monarch have two new A321s due next year on lease.
Both Airbus & Boeing as part of there offerings include CEO & NG as interim deliveries until NEO & MAX slots were available.
They are not waiting for problems to be sorted out, just that slots are not available early enough or in numbers wanted.
As for the 2020 statement by me, it was a figure plucked out of the air, deliveries could start a lot earlier but some will be for 2020 and beyond.
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Old 21st Jun 2014, 12:49
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Could be a surprise, but you would think it would need to be a massive tide change (a-la EZY switch from B to A) to make Monarch change from Airbus to Boeing (or anyone else). Would seem odd to still be adding Airbuses and the associated training and maintenance to then change to Boeing.
Ill go for a 30 aircraft A320/21 NEO order.
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Old 21st Jun 2014, 13:19
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I did pmsl when a crew member told me they'd been offered 10 FREE 777's if they ordered 60 x 737 MAX.

Boeing giving away their most popular long haul aircraft - yeah right!!!
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Old 21st Jun 2014, 13:43
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Must have been 1 free 737 for an order of 60 777s
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Old 21st Jun 2014, 13:47
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Indeed!

I think their long haul days are numbered! 28" seat pitch on any flight over 10mins long.... No thanks!
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Anymore news on the aircraft order.
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Old 30th Jun 2014, 21:05
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as per previous posts, wait until Farnborough
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Old 1st Jul 2014, 17:02
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Boeing nears deal to sell 30 jets to Monarch Airlines -sources

Boeing nears deal to sell 30 jets to Monarch Airlines -sources | Reuters

My money would have been on an A320/1neo and C-Series combo.

Glad I'm not a gambler.
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Old 1st Jul 2014, 21:10
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This MAX order comes as a shock.

It must have been a good deal for them to reject the neo. They've been an Airbus airline for a while and now they switch to the MAX?

Any takers as to why?
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Old 1st Jul 2014, 22:31
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It will just come down to who has made the best offer- and 73 might just beat Airbus on payload range giving more flexibility.

MON have been with Airbus of late but were a near launch customer for the 757- and just look how well that aircraft has served them.

The latest 73 would look great in ZB colours.
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Old 1st Jul 2014, 22:52
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Big mistake IMHO the airbus cabin is far superior the airframe a younger more maintainable design. Customers will notice the difference and may choose another airline with AB instead. Money talks but if you loose some loyal customers through essentially going backwards the savings may not result overall.
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Old 1st Jul 2014, 22:56
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Can't see Ryanair pax deserting in droves- or Fly Dubai or Jet2!
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Old 1st Jul 2014, 23:16
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WSJ is now carrying this,

Monarch Airlines to Order 30 Boeing 737 Max Jets - WSJ

Looking to be 30 Firm with 15 Options.
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Old 1st Jul 2014, 23:26
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I'm begging for half Airbus, half Boeing... It's not worth it is it?
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 05:08
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as per previous posts, wait until Farnborough
So much for the big announcement at Farnborough. You heard it first on PPRuNe
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 07:30
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Feel free to correct me if I am wrong but I don't think Ryanair Jet 2 of Fly Dubai have ever operated airbus. Having flown Easyjet a few times if they went back to Boeing I would be seriously disappointed and would look elsewhere for a more comfortable flight. Their 737s weren't old when they got rid but the A319s were much better. I just think Monarch who I have admired for a long time, in particular their engineering, will regret this.
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 08:29
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Wow... and here's me thinking they were going all Airbus when they wave goodbye to the 752's
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