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Old 8th Jan 2014, 22:54
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To call the train service from Truro/Plymouth high speed is pushing it a bit, and that's before part of it falls into the sea without hope of replacement in a few years time.
Sadly Cornwall is of no importance to London in the grand scheme of things so the airport is going to have to stand on its own two feet or die. Cornwall CC should ditch it and use the subsidy money on things with a broader benefit to what is a very poor area. The private sector will either make a go of it or shut it.
Bad news for the region and businesses within it, but a harsh reality of the times - its all about location, location, location, and if that doesn't equal maximum return per £ invested then forget it. Social infrastructure for the benefit of all doesn't exist anymore.
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Cornwall has a population of just over 536,000 spread over 1400 Sq miles - it's just not enough people to support a public-service airport
There is enough people to support a public service airport, just not one the size of the real estate of St. Mawgan airfield.

Regardless of declared dimensions, at 300ft wide, there is more paved surface to NQY's runway than there is to any London airport runway, the place is enormous and it's never going to pay it way ... particularly whilst, quote, "very small town" Newquay actually has two commercial aerodromes.
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one councilor has suggested that it be turned in to a music venue

BBC News - Newquay Airport 'could become a rock concert venue'

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more chance of actually making money I suspect
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I read it as, as well as the airport, in the ample grounds !



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What's happened to the proposed ski flights. Are they operating or not?

I ask this as I've seen no evidence of them arriving/departing on the NQY website, and any reference to sales of them on there also seems to have disappeared :-(
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Greetings from Vancouver Island, Canada

I travelled Falmouth to Heathrow last month in Mr Hertz nice car, it took a little over 4 hours from my driveway to check in. I stepped out of the car at LHR and a nice man loaded my baggage into a little bus and then put it on a trolley at T5 for me. The Skoda Octavia cost me £58 and the fuel was £35 so just £93 for two people and over 80 kgs of baggage...easy as that straight along M5 and M4 motorways....that Ladies and Gentlemen is the competition.
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To call the train service from Truro/Plymouth high speed is pushing it a bit, and that's before part of it falls into the sea without hope of replacement in a few years time.
Damn right, over 4 hours for the quickest service to London, with stops at every village on the way till you get past Exeter. From experience I think Groundhog was a bit lucky doing Falmouth - Heathrow in just over 4 hours, but its still way faster than rail to Reading and change or Paddington and back. Only time I ever used Newquay was when Ryanair were flying to stanstead and I could catch a connection to Paderborn - as a Cornwall - London service it was a dead loss when you factored in check in times, etc, so even the slow train is preferable!
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Old 11th Jan 2014, 16:49
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Agree 100% TankerTrashNav, I was lucky and had a good run with absolutely no stops or delays, I would normally allow closer to five hours. As you rightly say the trouble with a flight Newquay to Heathrow is that after driving to NQY, parking,checking in, collecting bags at LHR, probably changing terminals it is going to take over three hours anyway and probably cost a vast amount more.

The fares would have to be very competitive and who would be prepared to offer that?

Relevant to Newquay I just flew Vancouver to Nanaimo, around 15 minutes on an Otter seaplane for a shade over £30, what is the equivalent NQY/ISC rate today..... I suspect a lot more!!
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RIP OFF BRITAIN,everything is more expensive in this country.....
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Don't get me wrong here I would love to see new routes ex NQY as you all know but we all have to appreciate that NQY will never break even based on passenger number.

The way it will turn things around is from other activities which they are in the process of adding too.

Apple Aviation, I think are having a new facility built
Bristow SAR base
AW SAR training base

They need to continue to diversify, attract some cargo/mail flights, MX base, take advantage of the vast amounts of space they have available etc

im fairly certain that they could easily host any sort of concerts on the RAF side of the base without too much problem because of the space they have available.

the odd extra flight will come as the economy picks up, but the airfield is never going to survive on commercial flights alone.


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Extend 05/23 at Perranporth, install an ILS, PortaKabin a terminal and give St. Mawgan back to MoD (Air) to dispose of at their expense as should have been decided way back.
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A Go-cart track? With St Eval no more than a 5 minute drive away? Who's hair brained idea is that?
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St Eval is outdoors how about an indoor kart track, ski slope,aqua pool,climbing facility, playzone etc etc not so hair brained is it?
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Greetings from Vancouver Island, Canada

I travelled Falmouth to Heathrow last month in Mr Hertz nice car, it took a little over 4 hours from my driveway to check in. I stepped out of the car at LHR and a nice man loaded my baggage into a little bus and then put it on a trolley at T5 for me. The Skoda Octavia cost me £58 and the fuel was £35 so just £93 for two people and over 80 kgs of baggage...easy as that straight along M5 and M4 motorways....that Ladies and Gentlemen is the competition.


Agree 100% TankerTrashNav, I was lucky and had a good run with absolutely no stops or delays, I would normally allow closer to five hours. As you rightly say the trouble with a flight Newquay to Heathrow is that after driving to NQY, parking,checking in, collecting bags at LHR, probably changing terminals it is going to take over three hours anyway and probably cost a vast amount more.
You must have been hammering it!

Have done similar from St Ives up the A30/A303/M3, but many years ago, and was definitely caning it. Was young, and, stupidly, it was my own car.

Was this was early morning with light traffic?

No clicking "gatso"s; no unmarked vans clocking your speed; no tugs from "plod", GROUNDHOG, think you were very lucky!

Was it a one-off? because nine times out of ten there is congestion and delays, and for some, stress.


Your point of road v. rail is taken.

BTW, have a great time in Canada.
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We left at 0800 and met hardly any traffic at all, RAC route planner suggests 269 miles and 4hrs 10minutes, so as I said allow 5! We did 70-80mph all the way non stop but everyone knows rented cars are much faster than your own no matter what you drive!!
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Kernoworld theme park to rival Disney, much better idea and agree with the man in the tropics, flights to Perranporth. Please send sun PF badly needed here right now!
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Old 12th Jan 2014, 21:59
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Originally Posted by GROUNDHOG
St Eval is outdoors how about an indoor kart track, ski slope,aqua pool,climbing facility, playzone etc etc not so hair brained is it?
Outdoors/Indoors, what's the difference, really? It's an airport, not a theme park. Maybe they should put a helter skelter in the middle of T5 at Heathrow. I think the council are onto something
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Old 12th Jan 2014, 22:44
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It's an airport, not a theme park.
I beg to differ.
It's business that is losing money.
If it continues to lose money it will not be anything. Not even an airport.
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Oh but it will, because it's being subsidised by the taxpayer, and has been for many years (as we all know). Should it be a private consortium or the like then I would wholeheartedly agree with you.
It seems quite an odd way to run a business, what area would the "theme park" fall under? CAL? or the council? Would it support the business venture as a whole entity or top up the council's coffers to negate their own subsidies? How many millions need to be invested to get it off the ground? The managing director can maybe make a start by getting to know his staff a little bit better.
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