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Old 21st Jun 2013, 04:10
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Old 21st Jun 2013, 05:01
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So why does Southend get all the stick about being/not being a "London" airport?

It is probably down to perception. Everyone knows that Southend is by the seaside so is perceived to be a long way from London.
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Old 21st Jun 2013, 07:47
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GROUNDHOG has hinted at some cunning plan to replace the NQY-LGW service when Flybe come off the route next March, but NQY to .... where? I would agree with him and others that SEN is not the ideal LON arrival airport from NQY but not because it isn't a 'real' LON airport, that argument surely being a thing of the past. Using LGW would still look the most passenger-friendly option (LHR simply not being a realistic expectation) but I rather doubt that anyone will find that very cost effective either unless EZY take it on. I suspect they have more lucrative routes in mind for their Flybe slots than a double daily NQY service.

So we're back to GROUNDHOG's 'plans' or hoping that EZY decide to try SEN-NQY on a year round basis - again something I wouldn't think very likely as they probably see it as simply a summer tourist route. Failing either of the above I reckon NQY-LON will join the list of those regional routes killed off by APD and high LON airport charges.
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Old 21st Jun 2013, 08:45
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The funny thing is that I have been retired for many years and do not want to get involved in starting another air service ( I didn't say airline?) but I along with a couple of other old timers do have a European Operating Licence at our disposal, access to aircraft and a potential investor airport to make things happen.

Given a choice I would love to see a new operator on the route but as Phileas rightly says the fear is NQY will go the way of others when Flybe leave.

Do not right off airports in London "not allowed commercial flights", sole use charters are allowed aren't they?
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Old 21st Jun 2013, 09:16
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hoping that EZY decide to try SEN-NQY on a year round basis
Devon/Cornwall needs a "puddle jumper" service, maximum 50 seats, a minimum of twice daily during the week and once daily at weekends!

EZY don't operate puddle jumpers and come the winter they'll be lucky to fill one minibus per week never mind 3!
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Old 21st Jun 2013, 10:32
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Exactly Phileas. As I said I think EZY see SEN-NQY as a summer tourist route only and you aren't going to see any 50-seater operators queuing up to get access to LGW.
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FDF looks forward to LHR - Exeter - not only will t not happen in his lifetime it will never happen at all

Currently it takes 2 to 2.5 hours from Paddington by train - when Crossrail is in and the Reading direct link plus the 125 replacements will probably be somewhat faster

who is going to slog out to LHR, have to go through security, and then wait 45 -60 mins for a flight which will probably be nearly 60 mins from gate to gate where you are out miles out of Exeter?
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Quote: "Do not right off airports in London "not allowed commercial flights", sole use charters are allowed aren't they?"

Do you mean NHT by chance?

Quote: "FDF looks forward to LHR - Exeter - not only will t not happen in his lifetime it will never happen at all

Currently it takes 2 to 2.5 hours from Paddington by train - when Crossrail is in and the Reading direct link plus the 125 replacements will probably be somewhat faster

who is going to slog out to LHR, have to go through security, and then wait 45 -60 mins for a flight which will probably be nearly 60 mins from gate to gate where you are out miles out of Exeter?"

You are almost certainly right, Heathrow Harry, but bear in mind that the crossrail will not go to/from Reading, so another change at Maidenhead will be needed after a stretch on a local train.

It would make sense for Reading to be the western end of crossrail, why do planners ignore the huge Reading interchange? Yet another example of an allergy to common sense?

If long distance trains are eventually routed through LHR-5 and LHR-1/2/3 (on a Langley-LHR-5 spur and then on Heathrow Express tracks to airport junction), and the Great Western is electrified as far west as Exeter it could become a very fast journey.

The former is unlikely, and the inability to change (to/from a long distance train) at Hayes will probably remain. The latter is only planned as far as Newbury, and it's doubtful that bi-mode trains would be used.

For connecting pax using rail, it's a lot of lugging baggage around: change at Reading for local train, then onto crossrail at Maidenhead, then again at Heathrow. Might be easier to check in bags at EXT through to final destination and vice versa. BTW EXT is only about 3 mi. from Exeter.

But, as mentioned earlier, it won't happen.

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Possible scope for Loganair to operate EDI - NQY, then onto SEN, returning the opposite direction using the Saab 340 or Do328. Rosyth is getting busier with the aircraft carrier work - being managed more and more by Babcock out of Plymouth.

Maybe even bmi regional with an Embraer...
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Doesn't flybe already operate seasonally EDI-NQY on the Q400 ?


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Thinking out loud...

The loss of the LGW service may most effect those on the Isles of Scilly, no longer a helicopter link and Lands End in the middle of nowhere, Plymouth gone, Newquay was the only way left to reach London or an International Airport with anything like a comprehensive list of destinations. Secondly why would Flybe want to run LGW through the low season and just lose more money on a route that is being chopped anyway, why not just drop it at the end of the Summer or restrict the frequency even further and save a few bob?

Or is there a deal where someone else will pick it up that is why they want the continuity.....?
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I honestly think the London gatwick service will be taken over by easyjet. They are definitely in discussions with newquay airport in regards to taking on the route, or at least that's the impression I got.

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That'll be a definite impression that you are under then WOWBOY! I hope you are right!
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Old 25th Jun 2013, 09:37
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I honestly think the London gatwick service will be taken over by easyjet
An operator, to serve the route successfully, shall need to service the route twice daily five and two half days per week.

There ain't no way that a medium jet operator could even consider filling that many seats 12 times per week ... Back to the drawing board!
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Old 25th Jun 2013, 10:58
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EasyJet are interested in doing the Gatwick route if Cornwall County Council drop the ADF. I'm not sure if that's summer only or what frequency.
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Old 25th Jun 2013, 14:03
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Phileas is quite right this route must have frequency and that will only be on something small.... and something small will not get in to Gatwick.... hang on we have been here before haven't we.
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I'm curious......

Where have U2 stated that they want to do NQY-LGW ?

I know that have spoken out in the last week about the development charge but had not heard this before ?


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Old 26th Jun 2013, 10:08
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Loganair from EDI is very doubtful when they are already operating from GLA

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Old 1st Jul 2013, 16:12
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Balkan Holidays at NQY in 2014

Looks like NQY have picked-up Balkan Holidays as a new operator with a couple of flights to Bourgas in Spring and Autumn 2014.....

http://www.balkanholidays.co.uk/trav...-for-2014.html

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Uv got to love NQY.......

Email received today, Manchester route operates all year round, 7 days a week etc, perhaps that forgot to tell BE about the winter increase ??!


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