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"it`s not just a holiday route there is quite a lot of business traffic"
There's hardly a decent sized business in the whole County - especially once you strip out the public sector. The bigest private sector employer is probably St. Austell Brewey and they only employ around 1000 people
There's hardly a decent sized business in the whole County - especially once you strip out the public sector. The bigest private sector employer is probably St. Austell Brewey and they only employ around 1000 people
I know Cornwall very well thanks
Small companies still have to travel infact a friend of mine has 4 employees and travels abroad at least twice a week
luckily he lives in Stockport because he can do those trips which would not be possible from Cornwall at present
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Small companies still have to travel infact a friend of mine has 4 employees and travels abroad at least twice a week
luckily he lives in Stockport because he can do those trips which would not be possible from Cornwall at present
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Don't you think public sector use NQY?
plus let's not forget that VS, EK etc are all pushing connections via MAN & LGW
6,000 a month on a pure tourism related route. Wow
cs
plus let's not forget that VS, EK etc are all pushing connections via MAN & LGW
6,000 a month on a pure tourism related route. Wow
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CHAPS - I'm not denying that small business people fly international - but you need a lot or people flying in Business Class to pay for a route - especially if you want an out & back each day. Look at the struggles that even places like LBA, NCL & GLA have to maintain a network of buisness destinations - and they all have a lot bigger business sector that Cornwall & Devon combined
Heathrow Harry the route is nearly as strong in the winter as it is in the summer a nd people just do not want a 6hr drive in each direction for a business trip, I used to work in business travel and have a pretty good idea of what peoples requirements are .
Many business pax don`t fly business class now anyway and there isn`t business class on Flybe domestic products and looking at the fares which are holding up very well out of the
holiday season.
I think you will find that most business travelers come to Manchester as it is as quick to to Manchester with it`s multi daily schedules rather than struggle to LBA as it is far better connected by rail/motorways, The North East is a different case and is struggling
Glasgow/Edinburgh quite well served
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Many business pax don`t fly business class now anyway and there isn`t business class on Flybe domestic products and looking at the fares which are holding up very well out of the
holiday season.
I think you will find that most business travelers come to Manchester as it is as quick to to Manchester with it`s multi daily schedules rather than struggle to LBA as it is far better connected by rail/motorways, The North East is a different case and is struggling
Glasgow/Edinburgh quite well served
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Just can't see the amount of business based in the extrme SW as big enough to justify out & back every day - sorry.
LBA & NCL have very fast train & frequent services to London and still struggle ot build business routes to the Continent (except of course to AMS)
LBA & NCL have very fast train & frequent services to London and still struggle ot build business routes to the Continent (except of course to AMS)
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I stand corrected !!!
But last time I went through NCL at the same time as the DXB flight arrived I'd have guessed it was mainly holiday traffic - probably enough inter-lining at DXB and business traffic on top of the high Y class load factors that keep it going (or even expanding!)
But the NE has 2.6 million people - Cornwall around 500,000
But last time I went through NCL at the same time as the DXB flight arrived I'd have guessed it was mainly holiday traffic - probably enough inter-lining at DXB and business traffic on top of the high Y class load factors that keep it going (or even expanding!)
But the NE has 2.6 million people - Cornwall around 500,000
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500,000 is about a tenth of the number of visitors each year.
If you lived in Cornwall and REALLY knew the place you would be aware just how much it has grown in terms of business and technology over very recent years.
I have always been sceptical about the future of Newquay and remain that way, I have always said its return to profit can only be achieved by bolt on activities and it is great that this is happening.
I would certainly use Manchester as a hub rather than Heathrow or Gatwick except for now anyway my regular route is not served from Manchester. If it were I would switch in a heartbeat.
You mention Devon in a previous post.. isn't that in England?
500,000 is about a tenth of the number of visitors each year.
If you lived in Cornwall and REALLY knew the place you would be aware just how much it has grown in terms of business and technology over very recent years.
I have always been sceptical about the future of Newquay and remain that way, I have always said its return to profit can only be achieved by bolt on activities and it is great that this is happening.
I would certainly use Manchester as a hub rather than Heathrow or Gatwick except for now anyway my regular route is not served from Manchester. If it were I would switch in a heartbeat.
You mention Devon in a previous post.. isn't that in England?
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yes but the visitors mainly arrive by car & train - I know this only too well as we visit friends in Cornwall on a regular basis and it can be HELL on both in summer. Holiday visitors don't need out & back daily flights - business does. But even if it has grown in terms in business & technology there are still no really large companies in Cornwall - just look at the numbers.
I'm sure Newquay can scrub along - after all Dundee is managing (just!) - but to see it developing any significant multiple flights per day to more than a couple of places is just dreaming. It's certainly got a better chance of surviving than Manston or Teeside
I'm sure Newquay can scrub along - after all Dundee is managing (just!) - but to see it developing any significant multiple flights per day to more than a couple of places is just dreaming. It's certainly got a better chance of surviving than Manston or Teeside
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I certainly agree with the last part of your post, little regional airport with limited traffic at the far corner of the Country will always be restricted in what it can achieve
Do not underestimate the growth in business travel though,these are the people that do not have time to sit in your hellish traffic jams.
Do not underestimate the growth in business travel though,these are the people that do not have time to sit in your hellish traffic jams.
Things are moving on The Gatwick and Manchester routes now need a E195, When I travel to Corwall it`s always over night because of the solid traffic from Stockport all the way to A30
near Newquay 7 hrs during day 40 mins flight and train is nearly as bad as car and is more expensive.
near Newquay 7 hrs during day 40 mins flight and train is nearly as bad as car and is more expensive.
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New LBA Route
The first LBA NQY service this Friday is showing 'full' on the Flybe site. Can't all be freebies, so hopefully that's that route off to a good start. 195's on LGW and MAN plus winter flights to DUB should see very healthy growth over the Winter.
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Well me n other half are on first flight Friday.We definitely not on a freebie.Although I did book flights on the day they were announced for less than £40 each return,bargain to this yorkshireman!.